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Lebensohl on for passed responder, poll 2 of 2

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https://bridgewinners.com/article/view/is-lebensohl-on-for-passed-responder-and-after-a-balance-by-passed-hand/

 

Hands are shown as xxx just to show bidding.   Please don't read these literally; assume the 1N and 2M bidders have the appropriate values and shapes.

#2a

West
xxxxxx
xxx
xx
xx
North
xxx
xxxx
xxx
xxx
East
xx
xxxx
xxxx
xxx
South
xx
xx
xxxx
xxxxx
W
N
E
S
1NT
P
P
2
P
P
?
D

Is Lebensohl ON for a passed responder? e.g. if responder bids 2N is it a puppet to 3C? What would be the meaning of responder's double here?

The 2 overcall is natural.

 

Would your answer change if the overcall was 2H?

#2b

West
xxxxxx
xxx
xx
xx
North
xxx
xxxx
xxx
xxx
East
xx
xxxx
xxxx
xxx
South
xx
xx
xxxx
xxxxx
W
N
E
S
1NT
P
P
2
P
P
D

Is Lebensohl ON for a passed responder? e.g. if responder bids 2N is it a puppet to 3C? What would be the meaning of responder's double here?

The 2 overcall is natural.

 

 

My question is primarily in the 15-17 1N opening context but please share any additional insights on how your answer may change with a weak NT opening.

Will your answers change with vulnerability?

Thanks for all the answers.

Please select up to 2 choices.

Lebensohl is on for sequence 2a
Lebensohl is off for sequence 2a
Lebensohl is on for sequence 2b
Lebensohl is off for sequence 2b

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