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Fair enough. I guess that gains for hands to invite to 2, and the 2 GF allows an extra step which might be good to handle the awkward 1354's over the traditional 2 4th suit GF thus making the 3m bids pure.
Though giving up playing in 2 feels pretty big though, when responder is minimum and has 5413 or 5224 or 5314 etc, probably not best in matchpoints! I guess you win some, lose some!
Oct. 31, 2019
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Kate definitely loves to bid over 1NT doesn't she! For me, East's hand isn't a bid but then again I just play Multi-Landy, so the 2=+another definitely has the advantage that you can still stop in 2.

The 3 bid seems a bit wild though especially given that as you said it can be in a potential Moysian? Some days East might have more points so N/S only have a potential game (not slam), and over 3, North or South can make a value X and it gets passed in and 3X in a potential Moysian might not be pretty!
Oct. 31, 2019
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I think this is one of those hands where you should just bid game as West and not do too much threading the needle, especially it's a vul game. The spade suit has intermediates too, so when you make an invite and partner has a stiff spade with 12/13 (or a doubleton spade with 12?), they will likely pass and a potential game has been missed. It's definitely a different story if the spade suit was A10-to seven for example.

By the way, was 1NT showing clubs, or was it a Gazzilli type bid and the 2 showed clubs? Either way, both don't seem to make sense since you won't be able to play in a 2 contract?
Oct. 31, 2019
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Though I think it is worth 4 splinter isn't it? AKxxx and out makes slam. It's true that we don't have a last train bid available, but if partner pushes on with KJxxx and Kxx, then five level is still safe.
In my current partnership we have the rule “the less space a splinter gives, the milder the hand is for splintering”, so here 4 gives no last train bid. Anyway, even without that rule I would still splinter as it's cost free, and can be very informative if the oops bid up to 5.
Oct. 31, 2019
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If this were an ATB, I think South gets more blame.

From South's perspective, partner didn't need to cue with 4, so this 4 bid suggests some extras. South also has extras, so I think South should do more over 4. North could also have other minimum-ish hands such as AQxxxx xx Ax Kxx, or KQxxxx Qx Ax Kxx, or AJxxxx Qx Axx QJx, where slam is pretty reasonable.

From North's perspective, though South's 4 also suggested mild interest/cooperation, but it may also be bid with 13/14 points and didn't mind cooperating. For example, South might have x AKxxxx KQx Qxx and wouldn't mind giving a poke with 4 and if North bids 4, South will then pass (and 5 could potentially go down with a 4-1 break). South might also have x AQxxxxx Qx Axx (where 4 last train seems reasonable) and slam seems to be playable but not great I think.

This area is a tad difficult because both players are unlimited (and non serious doesn't exist here since 3NT is natural), so sometimes both people will have to show a bit of encouragement with a good 13/14 point hands.

By the way, sometimes it's a good idea for South's hand to rebid 2NT as it can still uncover the 6-2 major suit fits, but it also allows North to bid out more shape with 3m (then South can rebid 3, and North can still bid 3 over that to show more spades), and also sometimes North with AKxxxxx xx Axx x can rebid 3 over 2NT to emphasise the spades and now you play in a better fit.
Oct. 30, 2019
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Would you guys open 1NT with a 2=4=5=2 shape, something like Kx Kxxx AKxxx Kx? If so, you will need to discuss how you can get to diamonds (maybe you might bid 3 over 3, but on another hand maybe you might just bid 3NT due to overload in the red suits, perhaps Kx KJTx AQxxx Qx (I know you can't have the Q, but I meant on another hand)?)

I'm just thinking that I would normally play 4 over 3NT as natural, patterning out so therefore implying 4135 shape (which could be good as sometimes partner's hearts are weak). That way, 4 over 3NT would show a 46 shape.
Oct. 30, 2019
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Good 3 bid, I like it!

A couple of points:
- Was an Unusual 2NT considered (showing hearts and diamonds)? If partner wasn't a passed hand, I'd be inclined to overcall 1 due to broken suits, average hand, and I'm afraid of being doubled. However, both LHO and partner are passed hands (so a bit less likely to be doubled?), so there might be a chance to bury the spades by overcalling 2NT.

- Obviously robot East forgot bid more, but as South, if you're intending to bid 4 then I think 4 is the slightly better bid as you might find a 5-level sacrifice if partner has the right fitting hands.
Oct. 30, 2019
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It's kind of intriguing because one thing I've had bad experiences on is the 10-12 mini NT opening. I used to play it in 1st/2nd seat favourable and after a few disasters, I just wanted to quit it. But my partners still insisted so I gave in to my partners (because I'm nice) but of course what do you know, only disaster(s) and rarely any good boards came from it and I re-quit it once again!

A friend of mine, his bad experience is on 1NT overcalls believe it or not. He's only had disasters with it, and one time he was playing with a new partner in one tournament and really had to insist on not playing 1NT as natural. Guess what happened? There were three occasions where they could've overcalled a natural 1NT (but now couldn't), so they either had to double or pass and they all worked like magic as the third hand pretty much had a 2/1 GF bid and could double 1NT (which happened at the other table)! Funny how these things happen.

Anyway as to your question, it was pretty much 47.5% penalty doubles, 47.5% 4M5m, and 5% where X=4M5m OR a strong hand, a combination (supposedly they had continuations to reveal which one?).
Oct. 21, 2019
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Everyone's experiences is always different, and I think this particular topic is just based on what you've experienced.

For me, I prefer penalty doubles. I can remember a lot of times I've extracted a number of times, but I don't recall (m)any hands where I had wished I had X=4M5m available (though I did used to play that). It's not always about extracting a penalty too, it can allow you to show a strong hand and as a result might be able to bid a game, or perhaps if partner removes the double, it allows us to compete in a partscore.

But anyway, whatever works for you is best.
Just out of interest, I took a look at the systems in the Bermuda Bowl, and it seems like it's split 50-50% between X=Penalty or X=4M5m.
Oct. 17, 2019
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By the way, I strongly recommend having a systemic bid where the responder can transfer to the other major when the opponents interfere over 1NT. Ideally best might be something like some transfer Lebensohl or whatever, but if it seems like a lot of work, then definitely add in 4 as a texas to hearts or something. These typical auctions come up very often, and you don't want to lose a game swing due to the lead going through the strong hand into the overcaller.
Oct. 17, 2019
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It's true that East has shown spades and a minor, but it feels like taking a first round finesse is very committal. I think it's best to cash AK, and even if it breaks 3-1 with queen onside, you play a third round of hearts and there's still a chance that East has A (he did overcall 2 with Jxxxx after all).

Additionally, there's still a chance of a misdefence if East only has A(J) with Q. You play three rounds of hearts and West might switch to a diamond to your queen (a potential mistake). You now cash two more trumps coming down to a 6-card ending with dummy having KQT - KT T, and your hand is 2 J 5 K65, and East might decide to keep J97 - AJ Q. You now exit a small club and East gets endplayed. Of course, this does require misdefence and some careful card reading, but it seems like more chances than a first round heart finesse.
Oct. 17, 2019
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Then partner should think quicker :)
But honestly, there shouldn't be that much time required when partner shows a 3-card limit raise, you're either signing off or raising to game. If necessary, you might be able to use an “inbtween bid” to re-ask about how good partner's 3-card limit raise is.

The “bad GF raise” is meant to be just that. A hand such as QJx Jx Qxxxx AQx and partner opens 1 where you don't want to get partner too excited and thus show a “bad GF raise”. Or maybe you have KQxxx xx xx AT9x where you don't want to overbid your hand with Jacoby 2NT, or make a heavy 4 bid.
Oct. 1, 2019
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Would be more interesting if West's hand was dummy in 6. Does anyone want to have a guess on how you should play the diamonds then?
Sept. 19, 2019
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By the way, assuming the club spots are correct, be a bit cautious when you see a lot of the intermediate spots being played out! If the play sequence was correct, then it seems like you had an overtrick by forcing out the J after drawing trumps!
Sept. 19, 2019
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I've never been a fan of mini-splinters (or mini/mega/maxi variation). I understand there may be hands where you are able to bid a thin game when responder is weak and finds no wastage opposite. But more often than not, you will likely bid a game but give too much information away.

For example the auction would typically go 1H-1S-3S-4S and no info given out. On the auction described above, North's hand felt they ‘needed’ to cuebid just in case South has a mega splinter(? I assume?), and South also felt they needed to cuebid in case North was actually interested in slam. Definitely a lot of information given out.

What I normally play after such an auction of 1H-1S-3S: 3NT asks opener for shortage (with None, Low, High as responses), and if responder wants to show their own shortage instead of asking, they can bid 4/4/4 to show Low/Middle/High shortage. Also applies to analogous auctions such as 1-1-3 (3, next step, asks for shortage).
Sept. 19, 2019
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Another way to think about this is, if East's type of hand jumps to 4 (over 2 or 3 or whatever response), and responder has two aces, would responder pass it out? Don't think so - therefore it's probably OK for East's hand to jump to 4.
Sept. 19, 2019
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A couple of interesting points:
1) If you use an artificial bid to show a 3-card limit raise, you can also put in some “bad GF hands” in there too. So with the North's hand, I can bid 1S-3D (3card limit) then if partner signs off, bid 4S to show the “bad GF raise” just so partner won't get carried away if I start to show more points.

2) Since South opened in 3rd seat, it's probably not best to drive to game with the North's hand otherwise we will be hanging partner for opening light sometimes.
Sept. 19, 2019
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Not sure I would call it ‘normal’ with only a 6-card suit? I understand the aggression with the shape/suit quality etc, but I think it's a bit too ‘solo bridge’ to be bidding like this with a 6-card suit. Don't forget partner is still in the bidding.
Sept. 19, 2019
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I don't think South's hand should give up, especially being NV. Double is probably fine, though if you can bid a NF 3 then that might be reasonable too. The logic here is that when partner doesn't make a Support double (or rebid a competitive 3), his shapes are likely 2425 or 2335 or 2434. The nature of the 3 requires discussion - it seems a bit weird for a new suit to be NF, but I've seen lots of these hands where responder has 4M6m and responds the major first, but then later wants to rebid a 3-NF-minor. This can be playable because now when you have a strong hand, you can start with a double.
Sept. 19, 2019
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Love the 3 bid!
Aug. 29, 2019
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