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Declarer is down one.
Mr Bethe is correct: declarer is allowed to be careless.
There have been innumerable instances where, following a claim, an expert declarer was forced to concede a trick to an unmentioned outstanding trump. If miscounting trumps is classed as “careless”, then declarer here is not allowed “some other pop-up squeeze”.
Mr Pokorny is mistaken: It is not for us to comment on the leading habits of the non-offending side. No unmarked winning finesses are allowed.
Reese wrote an article published in Bridge World (I think early 80s) where TR bid a grand slam and claimed. An opponent disputed it as a key suit broke x-0 offside. Reese played on, on fairly straight-forward lines and came to some fancy ending. He wrote something like, “At this point East's best chance was to discard (some card)”.
Kaplan stepped in with an Editor's comment: “No, East's best chance was to have called the director at the time of the claim. The director would have ruled that the contract was down one”.
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Law 40 B 3: “The regulating Authority may disallow prior agreement by a partnership to vary its understandings during the auction or play following a question asked, a response to a question or any irregularity”
I believe the ACBL has elected to disallow such agreements.
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“…he said to me he would always appeal in a situation like this because ‘there has to be at least a 5% chance the committee will make a terrible decision so why not?’”
Why not? You have to be joking!
Ethics, integrity, decency, not being self-obsessed or greedy and not putting self-interest before fairness seem to be a reasonable start.
I despise the “win at all costs” mentality. Anyone who said that to me would be permanently scratched as a partner or teammate.
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I follow your point and think that you make a good case.
We agree that all matters regarding offensive comments, gloating, attempted bullying and intimidation etc, should be dealt with via a call for the Director.
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I just don't follow any of this. Rudeness and bullying are violations of Law 74.
If it happens to you, don't complain to your friends and family. Don't grizzle on FB. Don't post anything on Bridge Winners. Don't do anything but raise your hand and say, DIRECTOR!
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I am in favour of the Recorder process if and only if the defendant is provided with the opportunity to answer the complaint.
I am aware that some jurisdictions have a “secret” Recorder system - entries are made on a file and, if malicious or foolish complaints have been made about you, you may never know…
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“Throughout the ordeal I kept trying to figure out how these women could torment me for hours on end.”
How could they do it? Because you let them. I draw your attention to LAW 74: Conduct and Etiquette.
A.Proper Attitude 1. A player should maintain a courteous attitude at all times.
2. A player should carefully avoid any remark or action that might cause annoyance or embarrassment to another player or might interfere with the enjoyment of the game
If an opponent violates this law, call the director. If they do it again, call the director. Keep calling the director until they shut up. My record is six director calls during the first board. The rest of the match (against a notorious loudmouth) was conducted in silence.
Where they say “Do not travel” (say, Somalia or Syria) I would take this seriously.
The “Exercise a high degree of caution” (say, Thailand or Sri Lanka) is often complete rubbish. Its purpose is so that the Embassy can say “We told you so” to the drunk Australians who pick fights with the locals and end up in trouble.
Bali is on this “high degree of caution” list.
I am currently in Asia in one such “high degree of caution” country. The people are kind, courteous and honest. I am much safer here than in any major Western city. Yes, I could hunt down some nutty extremists and get into hot water. And I could head to Alabama and find some white supremacist group if I tried.
Where I am, I can walk for 3 hrs in any direction and never see a Westerner. On the way I could eat amazing food at any one of hundreds of street stalls for under US$2. If I went to a bar and left my money, passport and camera behind, it would be there the next day. Try doing that in the US or UK and see how you go.
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Garozzo's defence (1979 Bermuda Bowl) is discussed in Bridge World, June 1993 (Garozzo's Secret) and Aug 2012 (Defend with Your Memory).
What BG did had a slightly different theme: playing back a suit where declarer has the equal of Ax opposite KQxx, which ruins the entries for unblocking another suit and crossing back.
Still, this current hand is very good and worth filing away.
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Mr Swinkels:
There was a Punch cartoon of the '20s, set at a party: Ardent feminist: Generally speaking, women are… Cynical young man: Yes, they are AF: Are what? CYM: Generally speaking
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Mr Willey writes: “Throughout this sordid little affair I have maintained that the host country (Indonesia) has an obligation to grant visa’s (sic) to any player participating in the championship”
I repeat from a posting by Peter Gill: “The number of bridge players banned from obtaining visas to go to the 2010 World Championships in Philadelphia was 32, ref http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/last-world-championships-for-the-us/. That link was written by Jason Feldman, Immigration Attorney and expert bridge player”
Mr Yates writes in further down the page: “When the World Youth Championships were held in Fort Lauderdale in 1999, the US State Dept refused to issue a visa for one of the Pakistani juniors. That team was therefore unable to attend.
This happened during the last year of the Clinton administration and before “security concerns”. It probably would have been good for more US bridge players to have raised a fuss to help out those kids out back then. That way, at least we would look consistent when we rally for Migry.”
Mr Willey, what is it that you maintain regarding “the host country” (USA)?
Count me with Mr Yates: “It probably would have been good for more US bridge players to have raised a fuss…”
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Mr Bethe is correct: declarer is allowed to be careless.
There have been innumerable instances where, following a claim, an expert declarer was forced to concede a trick to an unmentioned outstanding trump. If miscounting trumps is classed as “careless”, then declarer here is not allowed “some other pop-up squeeze”.
Mr Pokorny is mistaken: It is not for us to comment on the leading habits of the non-offending side. No unmarked winning finesses are allowed.
Reese wrote an article published in Bridge World (I think early 80s) where TR bid a grand slam and claimed. An opponent disputed it as a key suit broke x-0 offside. Reese played on, on fairly straight-forward lines and came to some fancy ending. He wrote something like, “At this point East's best chance was to discard (some card)”.
Kaplan stepped in with an Editor's comment:
“No, East's best chance was to have called the director at the time of the claim. The director would have ruled that the contract was down one”.
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“The regulating Authority may disallow prior agreement by a partnership to vary its understandings during the auction or play following a question asked, a response to a question or any irregularity”
I believe the ACBL has elected to disallow such agreements.
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Why not? You have to be joking!
Ethics, integrity, decency, not being self-obsessed or greedy and not putting self-interest before fairness seem to be a reasonable start.
I despise the “win at all costs” mentality. Anyone who said that to me would be permanently scratched as a partner or teammate.
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I think I will patent this…
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Barbaric.
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An attractive girl glares at some annoying guy…
“If I throw a stick will you go away?”
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We agree that all matters regarding offensive comments, gloating, attempted bullying and intimidation etc, should be dealt with via a call for the Director.
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If it happens to you, don't complain to your friends and family. Don't grizzle on FB. Don't post anything on Bridge Winners. Don't do anything but raise your hand and say, DIRECTOR!
Do that once for every offence. It works.
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I am aware that some jurisdictions have a “secret” Recorder system - entries are made on a file and, if malicious or foolish complaints have been made about you, you may never know…
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I strongly suspect that if someone were to say, “The earth is round”, you would indignantly direct them to:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
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How could they do it? Because you let them. I draw your attention to LAW 74: Conduct and Etiquette.
A.Proper Attitude
1. A player should maintain a courteous attitude at all times.
2. A player should carefully avoid any remark or action that might cause annoyance or embarrassment to another player or might interfere with the enjoyment of the game
If an opponent violates this law, call the director. If they do it again, call the director. Keep calling the director until they shut up. My record is six director calls during the first board. The rest of the match (against a notorious loudmouth) was conducted in silence.
Avon Wilsmore
You will find a complete list here:
http://smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/
Where they say “Do not travel” (say, Somalia or Syria) I would take this seriously.
The “Exercise a high degree of caution” (say, Thailand or Sri Lanka) is often complete rubbish. Its purpose is so that the Embassy can say “We told you so” to the drunk Australians who pick fights with the locals and end up in trouble.
Bali is on this “high degree of caution” list.
I am currently in Asia in one such “high degree of caution” country. The people are kind, courteous and honest. I am much safer here than in any major Western city. Yes, I could hunt down some nutty extremists and get into hot water. And I could head to Alabama and find some white supremacist group if I tried.
Where I am, I can walk for 3 hrs in any direction and never see a Westerner. On the way I could eat amazing food at any one of hundreds of street stalls for under US$2. If I went to a bar and left my money, passport and camera behind, it would be there the next day. Try doing that in the US or UK and see how you go.
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What BG did had a slightly different theme: playing back a suit where declarer has the equal of Ax opposite KQxx, which ruins the entries for unblocking another suit and crossing back.
Still, this current hand is very good and worth filing away.
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Panelist: 3♦. What else?
Reese: What else indeed! What on earth are the other 23 panelists thinking of?
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I side with Mr Lowell and Mr Pokorny; I think you have the 75% rule upside down.
If you are in possession of UI, you may not choose from amongst reasonable alternatives one that MIGHT have been suggested by the UI.
If 75%+ of those polled agree with your action you are off the hook; ie your choice of calls was close enough to “auto”
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Have you not seen the several postings below that discuss the DOZENS of bridge players refused visas to play in WBF events in the US?
No visa is required to enter Antarctica. The level of crime there is close to zero - no Bostons!
The solution is obvious.
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There was a Punch cartoon of the '20s, set at a party:
Ardent feminist: Generally speaking, women are…
Cynical young man: Yes, they are
AF: Are what?
CYM: Generally speaking
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“Throughout this sordid little affair I have maintained that the host country (Indonesia) has an obligation to grant visa’s (sic) to any player participating in the championship”
I repeat from a posting by Peter Gill:
“The number of bridge players banned from obtaining visas to go to the 2010 World Championships in Philadelphia was 32, ref http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/last-world-championships-for-the-us/. That link was written by Jason Feldman, Immigration Attorney and expert bridge player”
Mr Yates writes in further down the page:
“When the World Youth Championships were held in Fort Lauderdale in 1999, the US State Dept refused to issue a visa for one of the Pakistani juniors. That team was therefore unable to attend.
This happened during the last year of the Clinton administration and before “security concerns”. It probably would have been good for more US bridge players to have raised a fuss to help out those kids out back then. That way, at least we would look consistent when we rally for Migry.”
Mr Willey, what is it that you maintain regarding “the host country” (USA)?
Count me with Mr Yates:
“It probably would have been good for more US bridge players to have raised a fuss…”
That prevents the potential charge of hypocrisy.