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1C-1NT 8-10/9-11 is very popular here. I know that weakish 1NT block 1M overcall but wrongsiding 1Nt is fairly costly in MP.
Aug. 28, 2018
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I dont see what type of disastrous switch east could make north is marked for a singleton .
Aug. 28, 2018
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“The OP specifically stated that Pass then 4♥ was a ST. Even if that was the ‘wrong’ agreement, it was a good one to have for this hand.”

Agreed and I have no problems with it that and I think west pass and pull sequence is perfect as east was asleep.

But im just trying to show my logic to explain why its wrong to think 3H should promise values.

If you wait to have a good suit and values for a 3H bid you will pass too often and endup being too submissive vs preemption.

If you bid 3H with a decent suit but may not have values if your side is slammish you will need to show values or not later. So if 3H show a decent suit or at least one place to play than a later pass and pull to 4 is an obvious slam try.

If you bid 3H with values but without a good suit you will probably need pass and pull as COG bids. Unless you play your X and pass as takeout and DSIP wich mean totally giving up on pure pen double.

If you play with a player that agree with this logic than 3H doesnt promise values but show a hand that can mostly play in one denomination.

If you play with a player that show or deny pts by passing or bidding your playing with a method that is similar to steps after 2 and to a method where you reply control after a strong club opening you will do well as long as opponents dont bid but as soon as they bid you will be behind compared to most modern style.
Aug. 28, 2018
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Somewhat similar to John point.

If 3H can be bid with 5 trumps but with values than the Pass and pull by west should be used as COG bid rather than slammish.

52?? where 4H in a 52 fit facing a 5-1 break with trump behing isnt so fun.

When its a slam hand the partnership need to untangle the trump suit and the overall strenght, but when the hand is not slammsih you only need to untangle the trump so that why untangling the trump suit first is better than showing values. Another reason is that showign strenght after knowing the degree of fit is more precise than showing strenght an finding degree of fit afterward.
Aug. 28, 2018
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A singleton K and poor minor make our hand look and behave like a 2344.

I play a relay precision and obviously 5431 is very common shape and through the years Ivs sim many hands about 3Nt or 5m decision and a suit like JTxx facing a singleton is problematic.

I used to think that with little wasted values and only one stopper 5m is going to be significantly better than 3Nt but quite surpringly 5m is not that much better than 3Nt simply because partner will have a singleton honnor more often than we think, if the honnor is an ace 3nt is slighty better than 5m but if its a K/Q 5m tend to be way behind. Suits like K973 are even worse

Add to this that IRL 3Nt is going to do even better since in DD sim they often lead an honnor to crash dummy singleton honnor.

Im 100% convinced you shouldnt bid 3M (3154) with a singleton A,K,Q. I dont bid 3M with a J singleton if my minors have no spots.

The that strenght also matter, if its a strong hand that show the 5431 the odds of a singleton honnors are higher than if its a weak hand that do the bid.
Aug. 28, 2018
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In my examples i said 0-2 pts but I would bid most of the hand the same way with pts or no pts, the exception are mostly case where i think we can make 3Nt if we dont want to defend. Like i said I try to find my fit and after I worry about strenght. Showing pts, a positive or a GF bid is often useful because it force the partnership to game or at least a certain level and by removing all non-forcing bid you endup with more overall bidding space, but after a 2C opening we cannot stop before game so making a bid that show values but isnt precise about shape is now less important.
Aug. 27, 2018
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Focusing only on this hand is missing the big picture. To get a sound method you need to know what you are going to do when you get other type of hands than a hand with pts and a long major, ex hands like 4414.3325 etc.

Lets say responder hand was

xx
Jxxxx
xx
Jxxx

Would you reach 4H/4S/5C or 4Dx ?
Aug. 27, 2018
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I would bid 3H with xx,xxxxxx,x,xxxx

The reason I do is because I want to be able to show “takeout hands”, penalty doubles and DSIP doubles.

My style is pass= penalty or takeout/2places to play
X=dsip medium interest in penalty.

look at 4 different yardborough or 0-2pts hand.

4414
3325
3343
2614

With the first hand I dont want to defend 3Dx so I need a way to show my hand. I pass and bid 3H over the double.

With the 2nd hand Ill do a dsip double, if opener want to defend I feel 3Dx is better spot than game our side.

Hand 3 I dont care that much if my hand doesnt make a trick I want to defend rather than be in offensive game our side facing most of opener hands, obviously opener can pull my penalty X by bidding instead of doubling. After a 2C opening or in a GF auction making a penalty double is regressive not trumps tricks.

With the 4th hand I have no intention of doubling and my hand play much better in H than elsewhere so I must bid my H directly. If I pass what im I going to do if opener bid 3S/3NT ? Even if he double how is my partner know that my delayed 3H show 6 of them ?

Id rather play steps over a 2C opening that having to pass with a good suit because i dont have pts.

Finding your best fit first than worrying about values > showing/denying values but have no idea what suit is trumps.
Aug. 27, 2018
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I think there is a lot of sense by playing the cue as weaker than the jump shift/jump raise/single raise without caring about 3 or 4 card support.

The reasons are very similar to why xyz do better than new minor forcing and why 4th suit inv do better than 4th suit GF in most case. These method tend to stop advancer/responder to waste bidding space when you want to show your hand.

I think you can do better by using the cue as light INV or art GF.

ex
(1)–X–(P)–1
(P)—-??

2H = art GF or aggressive 2S raise (3 or 4 cards)
2S = strong raise (3 or 4 cards)
rest is natural nf except 3S wich can be GF slammish.

by using 2H this way responder will bid 2S (return to his suit) more often allowing better control of the auction. If you are GF and responder will bypass 2S you should have extra values to fall back on your feet. Worse case is when responder is medium but will bypass 2S because of 6cards suit.

The only problematic hands I see is when overcaller is GF but with a singleton in advancer suit advancer is medium with 6 card suit.
Aug. 26, 2018
Benoit Lessard edited this comment Aug. 26, 2018
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I initially tought you got half a MP for missing 7Nt so I was thinking that there is not a lot of drunks in that field.

Hamman is right again.
Aug. 26, 2018
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If south dint have a control he would bid 4H and if he didnt have a void he wouldX or not X depending on methods. If you have this agreement north is fairly safe at the 5 level unless there is a S ruff wich cannot happen because hes showned exactly 4.
Aug. 26, 2018
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this hand look like an obvious direct 4H imo. We need 2keycards + Q of trumps, if responder got that he is more likely to jump to 6 than to pass 4.
Aug. 25, 2018
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I love opponents who focus about values instead of finding their best fit on those auctions.

East could have akward hand like 3325,4414,4513,2425 etc…
with the 3325 I have some desire to defend but with the others shapes im not keen on defending and obviosuly with those shapes I cannot make a direct bid.

When east got no desire to defend he will need to bid a suit sooner or later, but with a 2623 and crap he need to bid his H now because if he pass and pull opener should play him for 4414.2425.3514.4522 type of hand.
Il even bid 3H with something like xxx,QJT9x,xx,xxx because jsut rate to be better than game in the blacks.

No doubt in my mind that west is a top notch player because with 3 losers there is no need to bypass 4M when you know that if partner got 2 covers the 5 level will be safe for him.

If East is less experienced or your agreements are unclear there is a stronger case to pass and bid 4NT as H rkc.
I also prefer 4Nt direct as to play and delayed 4NT(4 if kickback) as RKC. Direct= more natural often one place to play delyaed= 2 place to play artificial etc..
Aug. 25, 2018
Benoit Lessard edited this comment Aug. 25, 2018
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X and cue as GF is a bit like 4th suit GF, its standard but its rarely the best method.
Aug. 24, 2018
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3 cards is possible for the 2 bid (4315) after 3Nt its clear opener should be 4135 or 4036 poor clubs type of hands.
Aug. 23, 2018
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I hope I wont get a 6511 in the near future.
Aug. 23, 2018
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I much prefer that players use “fragment” than “2or3”. 2or3 mean 2or 3 and it could be a 5422.

I dont understand players that think fragment is 3, why would we use “fragment” instead of simply using “3”.

If one player need to complaint it should be south not north. As a director i would know immediatly on wich list I put north.
Aug. 23, 2018
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I dont understand what is the problem, basically it went

1C-1H-1S-3H(GF slammish good suit) as in 2-way checkback/xyz except that opener is 15-18 unb (instead of 11-18) and hes not super unbalanced (not 4045/4063 & 4??7 are unlikely)

We are in a much better position than in standard just that the ranges are a bit different.
Aug. 23, 2018
Benoit Lessard edited this comment Aug. 23, 2018
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Also from my experience posting hand on BW that use complex methods such as 2 ways bids i.e methods where one bid is often just natural but may have artificial exception is always pointless and disapointing.

A phrase like “S has shown 15-18, 5(+)♣-4♠ but not 4045, 3crd ♥ possible, but not 4” will be interpreted correctly by less than 33% of the readers so the poll results is quasi sure to be meaningless.

Using the cheapest bid as a waiting bid after a 4sgf is just too unnatural for poll like this. Im wondering why you dont use 2H as balanced and 2S as unbalanced since the balanced hand is going to be more likely.
Aug. 23, 2018
Benoit Lessard edited this comment Aug. 23, 2018
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Agree, more encouraging than 3Nt less than a cue.

I also think a good 6 card is one that got no problems with a singleton support, so when I make those bid and partner choose 3Nt hes void of got hand with soft values.

AQJ98x vs low singleton will lose 2 trumps almost 40% of the time, its a bit high for a good suit imo. Id rather have QJT9xx and an extra ace for a good suit I hate losing a unexpecting slow trump trick when im in slam.
Aug. 23, 2018
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