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You can put anything on your system card by a simple “please ask about preempts” or the like.
I had a partner who never declined a vulnerable invitation, so whenever I invited and he bid game, I always announced (with a smile), “We play all vulnerable invitations forcing”. It usually got a chuckle and no one ever complained about our bidding it.
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P 1♠ 2♠ 4♣(splinter) 4N 6♣(3 keys + void in ♣) 6♠
As responder, I have a max, 4 trumps, no wasted values in clubs, and a partner promising roughly 20 pts. With clubs out of the picture, this is a 30 HCP deck and we have around 28 of those points. How can I not make a slam check?
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Double should be penalty and including a heart stopper.
Responder bid 2N for some reason – planning to bid 3N, Stayman, invite in spades, drop in a minor – opener has no idea.
If you can't double for penalty, just pass and trust partner to go where he was planning to go after your 3♣ relay bid. If this is too high, partner will know to pass.
If you've doubled, partner can expect a heart stopper. If not, then then partner can expect you to be weakish or not have a heart stopper.
So responder knows all that he needs to know to get us to a good spot.
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Amir, “I do not, and will not back off. EVER.” is an approach that will poison your entire life.
What would be the problem with keeping quiet, letting the director handle any problem, and try to let others have their way occasionally?
Do you somehow think that if you back off respectfully that you would be diminished? On the contrary, I think more people would respect you for that than for fighting back.
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Of course, you could have very nicely and graciously offered to pay her entry fee. That would have diffused the situation instantly at a very small cost.
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Christopher, while I agree with you that meeting it with humor would have been far better, I still think it is the OP who is exhibiting the less than acceptable behavior. People simply don't explode like that without a long term reason.
I also suspect we don't have the full story of the incident. No one walks up to a table and “starts screaming” without some kind of trigger, probably something that was said at the time and not reported as part of the description.
I don't know that, of course, and I might be way off base, but long-term friendly behavior with gentle explanations would almost certainly have prevented this.
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You know, you've written this in a humorous manner, but underneath that I see some possibility that you are the problem.
If you really did mention the toilets to her, then I suspect you've said similar rude things in the past and her outburst is merely the result of a long-term irritation with you that finally came to the surface.
Actually filing a ZT violation for this would only make the matter hugely worse, may drive her from the club, and may even drive others away as well.
If you are that much better player and insist on playing a system that the rest of the club doesn't even understand, then you are way out of line in your rude manner and your vindictive actions. A better solution would be to go way overboard with friendly explanations of your bids.
I may be way off base, but I suggest you at least consider the possibility that you are being arrogant and unpleasant, and start behaving in a friendly and helpful way.
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Case 1: One very good reason for not leading hearts is a very poor suit and knowledge that declarer isn't afraid of them.
Partner could easily have something like
♠QJxx ♥Jxxxx ♦xx ♣Ax
and figure spades has more future.
Case 2: On the other hand, partner could hold something like
♠QJxx ♥KJ10xx ♦xx ♣xx
be looking for a heart lead through declarer's presumed stopper.
My Answer: I'd look at the spade card. If it is low (4th best), partner wants a spade back. If it is her highest spot, partner wants a heart through. I'd also expect if partner was in Case 2, she'd lead a ♦, the suit I opened.
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This hand is too strong for a preempt. Partner might have the same kind of suit in spades. Partner might have the right cards for slam. Pard won't pass 1♦ and I can outcompete the opponents, so why be unilateral about it by preempting?
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You guys are all trying to justify artificial 1♠ bids, full of “probably”, “most of the time”, “usually”, “fit might not be lost”, “occasionally”, etc.
If 1♠ shows a 4 card suit, nothing is lost and all of these difficult situations are avoided.
So carry on with all your reasons why it's ok even though sometimes ..(things go wrong, yada yada).., and feel free to play against me any time you like.
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Bill, bidding 2♠ naturally gets you too high if you have a partscore level of hand and pard doesn't actually have spades.
Richard, if opener does not have 4 spades, what does he do? If opener does have spades but responder doesn't have spades for his bid, there might not BE anything to do next.
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It makes absolutely no sense to have 1♠ be anything other than a spade suit, forcing 1 round. If 1♠ is artificial, you constantly miss spade partscores.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
In live games where cards are manually dealt, they are rarer because of shuffling inadequately to randomly mix the deck.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
I had a partner who never declined a vulnerable invitation, so whenever I invited and he bid game, I always announced (with a smile), “We play all vulnerable invitations forcing”. It usually got a chuckle and no one ever complained about our bidding it.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
2♠ 4♣(splinter)
4N 6♣(3 keys + void in ♣)
6♠
As responder, I have a max, 4 trumps, no wasted values in clubs, and a partner promising roughly 20 pts. With clubs out of the picture, this is a 30 HCP deck and we have around 28 of those points. How can I not make a slam check?
Cornelia Yoder
Responder bid 2N for some reason – planning to bid 3N, Stayman, invite in spades, drop in a minor – opener has no idea.
If you can't double for penalty, just pass and trust partner to go where he was planning to go after your 3♣ relay bid. If this is too high, partner will know to pass.
If you've doubled, partner can expect a heart stopper. If not, then then partner can expect you to be weakish or not have a heart stopper.
So responder knows all that he needs to know to get us to a good spot.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
What would be the problem with keeping quiet, letting the director handle any problem, and try to let others have their way occasionally?
Do you somehow think that if you back off respectfully that you would be diminished? On the contrary, I think more people would respect you for that than for fighting back.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
I also suspect we don't have the full story of the incident. No one walks up to a table and “starts screaming” without some kind of trigger, probably something that was said at the time and not reported as part of the description.
I don't know that, of course, and I might be way off base, but long-term friendly behavior with gentle explanations would almost certainly have prevented this.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
If you really did mention the toilets to her, then I suspect you've said similar rude things in the past and her outburst is merely the result of a long-term irritation with you that finally came to the surface.
Actually filing a ZT violation for this would only make the matter hugely worse, may drive her from the club, and may even drive others away as well.
If you are that much better player and insist on playing a system that the rest of the club doesn't even understand, then you are way out of line in your rude manner and your vindictive actions. A better solution would be to go way overboard with friendly explanations of your bids.
I may be way off base, but I suggest you at least consider the possibility that you are being arrogant and unpleasant, and start behaving in a friendly and helpful way.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
Partner could easily have something like
♠QJxx ♥Jxxxx ♦xx ♣Ax
and figure spades has more future.
Case 2: On the other hand, partner could hold something like
♠QJxx ♥KJ10xx ♦xx ♣xx
be looking for a heart lead through declarer's presumed stopper.
My Answer: I'd look at the spade card. If it is low (4th best), partner wants a spade back. If it is her highest spot, partner wants a heart through. I'd also expect if partner was in Case 2, she'd lead a ♦, the suit I opened.
So I'm returning a spade.
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
Cornelia Yoder
If 1♠ shows a 4 card suit, nothing is lost and all of these difficult situations are avoided.
So carry on with all your reasons why it's ok even though sometimes ..(things go wrong, yada yada).., and feel free to play against me any time you like.
Cornelia Yoder
Richard, if opener does not have 4 spades, what does he do? If opener does have spades but responder doesn't have spades for his bid, there might not BE anything to do next.
Cornelia Yoder