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If you like to win card games that way, then go play Poker, there is a lot more money and a lot more fame to be had there. Leave bridge for those of us who like the game, not the poker skills.
Sept. 24, 2015
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If it were truly part of the game, then it would also be fair to deliberately be deceptive with it, just exactly like falsecarding is fair.
Sept. 24, 2015
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Sure they like it. It's the people who resent being “read” that think “reading” is nothing more than a legalized way to win without having to be good at the game of bridge.
Sept. 24, 2015
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“desperate”, now there's a word I like with respect to this. If you can't win the game with bridge logic and skill, you can always get desperate enough to try reading info from the opponents. I wonder how much desperation it takes until you have to move on to even more robust measures of desperation.
Sept. 24, 2015
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“…..I worry that I am merely fidgeting until I die….”

Isn't that what we are all doing? Life is about doing something that is important to you, and it kinda doesn't matter why it is important. If you enjoy playing bridge, then why care if it is “fidgeting” or not, just do it because you enjoy it and can.
Sept. 23, 2015
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Since we're on the topic of requests, is there any chance of being able to download all private messages (sent and received) as a txt file?
Sept. 23, 2015
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“Cheater” is a perfectly good word, used around the world, listed in many dictionaries, and I for one intend to keep on using it. So you might as well stop trying to bug people about it, just because you learned it differently.

After all, in some places, they call an elevator a “lift”, the hood of your car a “bonnet”, and a wrench a “spanner”. I mean how dumb is that? A lift is what you put in the heel of your shoe to look taller. A bonnet is what women wear to cover their hair, and a spanner is the next door neighbor of the hacker who keeps sending me emails.
Sept. 23, 2015
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Since it is going to be so impossible to undo/redo all the events, trophies, awards, etc, that these cheaters have won, I propose that each and every victory remain in the history books as it was played, and annotated with the fact that this pair was later found to have been cheating.

That's about as “under glass” as you could get, and it will stay there for the duration for everyone to see forever.

Sept. 23, 2015
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Great! I hadn't figured that out, thanks :)
Sept. 23, 2015
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That is a great article!! Well written, accurate, interesting even to someone who has followed this story from the start. Thanks for posting it!
Sept. 23, 2015
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This is great, and if you are in the improving business today, I'd also like to vote for a search feature in posts. Unless I'm missing something, the only thing I seem able to search for is a person's name.
Sept. 23, 2015
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Tim, you are SO wrong. Many of us consider online bridge to be the real First Class bridge!

It's the places where you have to spend thousands of dollars to go sit in uncomfortable chairs and play at prearranged times that may not fit your personal clock and risk being cheated and worrying about irregularities and opponents reading your eyes and all the rest of that stuff that is the Not Bridge.

Awarding masterpoints for online bridge has been going on for years now without any real problems.
Sept. 23, 2015
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Timo, I agree with everything you said right up to the last paragraph.

But I disagree that the current top players should be the ones to rule where the game goes.

Why should they have any more say than the second level players who might be top if they didn't have to contend with screens, body language, cheating worries, and the nuisance of physical cards?

Being part of the current in-crowd should not give you ruling power in the future of the game.
Sept. 22, 2015
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“There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. ”

Nicolo Machiavelli (1469-1527). The Prince.
Sept. 22, 2015
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That would be so nice, Joel. I remember once (okbridge days) when someone made a slam against me by dropping my singleton K offside missing 5 in the suit.

All others went down in that slam, and I accused the player of cheating (cheating was rampant on okb in those days).

Turned out he was a top player from S America and explained his play perfectly, he was right, it was an excellent deduction, I apologized, and I've been extremely careful of such implications ever since. Ignorance can get some of us …
Sept. 22, 2015
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I believe it was John Dean, white house counsel of Watergate infamy, who later wrote that he woke up one day and realized he was way over the line, but still couldn't remember or decide exactly when he had crossed it.
Sept. 22, 2015
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Haven't seen it here, but two different women have pointed that out to me on BBO.
Sept. 21, 2015
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Since it's so hard to go back and undo and redo, I suggest just leaving all the results in the books, and annotate each and everyone one of them with a direct note stating that the listed winner is now known to have cheated. Period. That not only solves the mess of trying to straighten them out, but it records for posterity forever exactly what happened.
Sept. 21, 2015
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There is a certain class of players, no specific names intended here, who take any opportunity to improve their scores by any legal means possible, including jumping on something innocuous to claim some penalty or adjustment.

We've all been victims of that (my own story is a good one, too, but the jerk is dead now and good riddance to him), and there is little you can do about it but put those players on your jerk list and be careful around them.

That's one reason I'm delighted to see the move toward electronic play where you simply can't revoke, drop cards, bid insufficiently, or touch something you aren't supposed to touch.
Sept. 21, 2015
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Dustin says what I was thinking also … there were some statistics posted showing FS and FN very high, then a group of 5 others with SP at the top of that group. The four other pairs in that group with SP are certainly the next likely suspects based on that criteria, and if any of them are cheating, they must be quaking in their boots right now.

Even if they don't know for sure who those statistics represented, they are likely quaking. And if they do get id'd, it's too late already to just stop cheating, so now would be the time to come forward and take the hit.

Normally, I would agree with Espen, if they get scared, they just stop for a while until the attention dissipates.

But this situation is different than normal, because they are already at risk with existing evidence just waiting to be noticed, so coming out now might just be their last chance to stay in bridge.

Sept. 21, 2015
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