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I think Ray is out to lunch on the Precision bit but quite on regarding Flannery. I'm a sometime user and I choose to make it clear of the inferences when appropriate. However, I “can't” immediately announce at the beginning of the auction what I know when partner opens 1H. I suspect that the regs are what they are to protect the old “waking up” issue.

If I were a 1D precision bidder, I would make it clear after partner's 1D opening the point range of the bid as well as the required info.

I think there were over 300 comments to this first official announcement, indicating the complexity of the new charts. Surely, this is an improvement over the old but many more questions will be asked with a lot of what ifs. Let's hope that a new alert chart (and, ideally, a new cc) will help untangle the bewilderment.
2 hours ago
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PS: Per others (and Larry) the idea of an immediate (default) double to alert partner to a competitive hand or better – when nothing else is quite right – strikes me as a good first step against Landy or any intervention, except for one that is natural.
14 hours ago
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Yes, Mark – yours and Peter's may indeed have merit but too much for most aging brains like mine and most partners.
14 hours ago
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Danny, will it now start in August?
15 hours ago
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So, will a club that caters to a goodly number of advanced players (or 3000+) be end-played into choosing either Open Basic or Open Plus for a sanctioned game? Or, can/will clubsdo what they want, and not be restricted to feeding the MP trough?
July 13
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I infer that opening 1NT (once in your life) with something like x-KQJTxxxx-xxx-x is a psyche.
(1=8=3=1)

Or a tactical bid?
Or an illegal bid?
Or it doesn't matter what we call it?
July 13
Ed Judy edited this comment July 13
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Upthread, I posted these questions with only marginal response.

I'll try again:

Apart from all that, How do any feel about the Okatie “deviation?”

1a)Should it be continued (for clubs)?
1b)Might it go away in November (for clubs)?
1c)Does it apply to tournament play (now or in November)?

Additionally:

(2)Should clubs be encouraged by the ACBL to practice and adhere to ACBL regulations for tournament play?

(3)Should “progressive” clubs, voluntarily, strive to adhere to ACBL regulations for tournament play?

(Pls don't tell me clubs will do what they want; we know that.)

Please let me know of any strong opinions. Thanks.
July 12
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Ed, my understanding is that a psyche is a gross misrepresentation of values – something like xxx-Qxxxx-xx-Qxx – not something like the hand noted. Of course, my understanding may be wrong.

Thanks for your interpretation.
July 12
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Ray, you either don't get it or I have misrepresented the situation.

This has nothing to do with partnership agreements.

To date, my conversation with rulings has to do with the legality of opening 1S in any seat. Presumably, under current chart regs, this is a legitimate Oakie-OKed opening as a deviation from a legal bid, not a psych: AK754-xxxx-xx-xx.

To my mind, A10xxx-xxxx-xx-xx is not a psych and is not an Oakie deviation and is an illegal bid.

Hence, my question to Rulings.
July 12
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Ralph, many thanks for a great interview.

Other than bridge matters, I've learned that you're a new age Chi-towner!
July 12
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Does that mean that the electronic square is for the judging of what a player might do, rather than for the call of a ball or a strike? If so, interesting and shows that I'm out-of-date.
July 12
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Well, Studs Terkel, too!

But I was thinking and remembering the Studs Lonigan trilogy.
Here's a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studs_Lonigan

Chicago, particularly the South side, long before Peg's or even my time.
July 12
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Ray, thanks for simplifying my life. My hope is that the above note to club managers will go away and that clubs and tournaments will be on the same page as to bridge rulings; if not feasible, perhaps we need (among other reasons) to push hard for segregation between club and tourney play in as many aspects as possible.

With regard to the OP and my current e-mail conversation, here is my latest comment to the ACBL Rulings department.

“A player opens – in 1st seat – 1S on the hand in question,
AK754-xxxx-xx-xx. Presumably, no problem – it fails the 8-point ”illegal“ regulation but passes the Oakie ”deviation.“ When does it not? Presumably, on a hand that is A10754-xxxx-xx-xx. (If this isn't ”illegal“ what might be?)

If so, if discovered and reported, what happens? Matters must differ, if not in principle, if the contest is imps rather than matchpoints.

Thanks for your attention and views.”

PS: The above was a club matter. Under current (not November) conditions, what might a tournament ruling be in regard to each of these hands and how might it be adjudicated?
July 12
Ed Judy edited this comment July 12
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Ralph, I'm old enough to revere first-hand the 1945 Cubs with Phil Cavaretta and Bill Nicholson – but of course you're not.

Was Ernie Banks an early hero?
July 12
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With that in mind, why does the electronic strike zone that I see on the tube so damn low – hardly above the waist and not near the pits?
July 12
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For Chicago stories, long-live the Studs Lonigan trilogy!
July 12
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Many thanks for all this experienced and expert feedback.

I'll see if I can light at fire at my two regular clubs.

I anticipate a downside: how might a web movement affect the master point payout at a typical sanctioned club game? Yes, one winner but will total mp payout remain much the same?

Yours for more and better bridge.
July 12
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Gene,
Regret you might have missed both of smilies.
Whatever,“unusually testy” is apt.
Here's to more and better bridge!
July 12
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Gene, you seem to be unusually mild-mannered,today :)
July 12
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“Convertible values”, also known as I'm puzzled, too, but do what's right:)
July 12
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