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@Mike
2 years ago, was a 2 team final last time I played in it, we lost by more than 3.Had it been only 3 I am sure my team mates in a KO head to head would have insisted it be converted to VP so we could tie on the individual scale that suits us.
Moving right along, I have tried my best over the last month to avoid the arguments I could and win the ones I couldn't.
The past is unchangeable, the result is in the books and haggling over who is guilty is not getting anywhere.
Unlike certain others who seem to have had a problem, the District and the League have communicated with me in a timely fashion at points multiple times per day.
Mistakes were made and learned from, the District has thought about and no doubt will select some kind of panel to offset the problems caused by lack of knowledge and experience of some of its members in making decisions that with no malice are just beyond their general bridge experience. No one on the District BOD is scared to ask for advice sometimes they have simply no idea they need it.
Going forward is the OP not getting stuck in the past.
June 20
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Peggy I have 20 sets of plastic boards, they are currently all in use, so I fished out a couple off old sets of metal boards for tomorrows lesson, I forgot exactly how much those things weigh. I think I would rather use all red boards than drag those things around every day.
June 19
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@ Jeff open 14table next to 3-5 table Howell. Most interesting was 18.5 table open with 6 table non game. 18 .5 web with half table on the piano with communal boards with howell and no one made a single error at least not in moving boards.
June 19
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@Jeff,
In this day and age of Bridge Mates, Web movements and various other advances, there is no excuse for North not checking the Bridge Mate to be sure the correct boards are on the table.
In my games which run webs daily except when we have exactly 13 table section, I announce before the game which tables get which color boards,1-8 green boards 9-16 white boards and to please double check the bridge mate.
No one has had a problem yet with passing wrong boards or moving them to wrong area.
Now I want to get them used to arrow switches and stationary E/W to solve the Everyone needs N/S problem, the joys of an aging community business model, I might open a side line as an undertaker.
June 19
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@ Steve it actually proved nothing. We lost to Roeder on an a board which effectively was one declarer trying to work out how to go down least and the other taking a 50% line to make.
At the table they played for down 1 and it just so happens that a very lucky lie of the cards and a misdefence allowed the contract to make, at the other table with same misdefence the declarer taking the 50% line went down.
The other match is probably not worth discussing, but we basically lost because I pulled a wrong card out of my hand.
So after 60 boards the outcome of the event was a misplayed card.
June 18
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I am not particularly enamored of 3 ways, but I can live with it for an all day match that is strictly win loss. I understand the Districts view point, which might be solved by going to Area Semi Finals down to a 4 team finals in a central location.
That would solve the masterpoint problem as 4 teams in final would all receive some master points. It would also give the 3/4 place teams something to play for on second day.
June 18
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I am pleased you have no problem with this Art, but I do. When you are playing an all day 60 board match but you are eliminated at the half in a 3 way you have effectively only played 15 boards against each of the other teams which is not enough to determine a winner. its akin to playing a compact, not my ideal choice for anything.
In the Spingold they use the 4 way format,so you are playing heads up against a team and if you lose one you still play a second match.
June 18
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I have a few red sets, that I use for lessons. I don't like using them in the club and I try to avoid using them for local sectionals and regionals. No one who has been playing for a while likes them because of the cited issues. One can still purchase vulnerability inserts but they just look messy.
June 17
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That's an obvious piece of brilliance. -1 -1 +1-25 +25 +1, the team that is -2 imps goes home the team that is minus 24 stays.
June 17
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Interestingly enough the team that came last in d22 was ahead in both at the half.
June 17
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Rick,
Many things would make running GNT easier on the players and the staff.
Duplicated boards and hand records for the final.
If a 3 team final is a must then either no comparison at the half or the elimination of the third placed team if they are behind a specified number of imps in both. I dislike a blanket behind in both but a total of 24 or 30 in either match sounds about right. would hate to see a team eliminated down 2 and 3 or even 10 and 12.
An appeal process which is not dependent on polling B flight at the sight or A flight for B flight. These are not the players peers and are unlikely to asses in the same manner. It wouldn't be hard for the director to have a list of players on call , I do it at the club.
Having the Director as the final arbiter of rulings which are occasionally beyond his or her bridge ability or thought process for a championship flight event is patently wrong.
The effect of UI and MI on any given hand is often subjective and would be viewed differently by top level players, however at the very least a poll of said players would create a fairer ability to asses the situation and rule accordingly.
June 17
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Nothing is going on in D22, we had a bad week. Our tournaments run great. Lamya Agelidis does a wonderful job together with Ron Lien managing them , Nancy Erickson does a wonderful job in the desert David Lodge is a relatively new District rep but he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty. Bill Grant is a good VP and does a pretty good job as District Recorder. Unfortunately Arlene is kind of semi retired as part of the Directing staff, and unfortunately Tom just passed away.
Like every where else we have a few that maybe are not up to the job, or just once in a while have a week where everything goes wrong.
When that happens everyone looks bad, but I promise its not as terrible as Jonathan might make it sound.
June 15
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Assuming I am not special.( Mourinho anyone) I picked up the phone to David Lodge and was in pretty much daily contact for over a week.
I think it will be very hard or the Director to be in contact, I went to play in his team game on Wednesday and he did not say a word to me from the time I walked in till the time I left, for the first ten minutes I was the only other person in the room.
I have been in contact with other persons in the League both by phone and email, maybe its just the squeaky wheel getting the most oil.
June 14
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As I have said you can carry on arguing debating and doing what rocks your boat. In the meantime unless you are going to binding arbitration Gupta won the GNT,and many of us concerned on the day are working hard to make improvements. You are stuck in the past not only can it be, it is.
June 13
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@Randy my club my rules, is my generic for reading the law book in such a way as to basically disallow abuse by A players over those less experienced players.
I might on occasion ask them if they really feel the need to call me for a meaningless revoke or if they seriously felt the need to psyche against C players maybe go play in a different sandbox.
I might allow play to continue if 2 players sit down at wrong table and have a slightly different but meaningless auction.especially if I feel the new A players just threw in a bid to get board thrown out.
But none of this applies at any level over club game. GNT I expect top class directing whether the law works for me or against.
June 13
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@ Jonathan, it May never have been scored in VP but I have no doubt they meant to score it in VP. Because the 4th placed team receive 0 master points in 7 team down to 4 format. You guys can carry on arguing all you like about whether this is legitimate or not or sensible or even if it created an unfair contest. But I have no doubt as to the intent.
June 13
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right answer to that misleading question would be
eventually
June 12
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Last time I saw a similar situation was at a regional, the initial Director ruling was. Declarer must play top cards, so in this situation he was allowed to take the 4 tricks in dummy before playing spades.
The ruling didn't hold up on appeal.
I think as a director I would go with one down, but you could still convince me that 2 down is right.
June 11
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@Peg ,
Outrage is one thing and you are entitled to be outraged, I am none too happy myself. I just find that half of what was written in that email should not be for public consumption.
With all the latin floating around here deus ex machina is still a possibility in this particular farce.
June 11
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Happens every time they hold a committee to hear a case from first session till after second. Every time a Swiss ruling is delayed and every time they post erroneous on ACBL live and find out next day someone else actually won. Hawaii anyone. Now that was a horrible Bulletin article.
June 11
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