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Does this agreement make sense in a precision context though? Opener could have 5 clubs and 2 diamonds, so its not clear why we would care about showing a club stopper vs a diamond stopper. Also, why wouldn't 3C just be natural showing both minors?
Aug. 14
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Most meck lite systems play this. Dan Neill's modern precision book is a good starting point for that and meck lite in general.
Aug. 8
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A daytime schedule seems fine on the west coast, but 10 AM start times on Eastern is a big middle finger to everyone flying in from the west coast.
Aug. 6
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With most people I play 4NT as minors, 4 as minors but a rock crusher hand that has strong slam interest.
July 31
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The MP rewards for the LM pairs seem low in comparison, but does it matter? Its plat vs regular. To be more fair, doubling all NABC+ event matchpoint rewards would seem reasonable, but do people at that level really care about total masterpoints? It seems like by the time you are contending for those sorts of events, you don't care about the matchpoint totals regardless. Is someone really going to skip the LM pairs (if they feel like they have a shot) to play the 2500 pairs?
July 30
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I'm not normally such a coward, but god these colors are brutal. Voted pass, but would be hard to not bid 4NT at the table.
July 19
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Wouldn't the computer run of the month preceding the month be the run for June? In that case it'd be July 7th(ish) where it tabulates all the stuff for June. The June 7 run is tabulating stuff for May, the June games haven't even happened.
July 18
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What's the logic in passing showing a 2nd round control and bidding denying a control? Doesn't bidding now make it harder for partner to communicate what sort of control they have?
July 18
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For my 2 other choice: both minors, less than invitational
July 16
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follow up after 3 should either include some sort of non serious or an agreement about the shape it shows (bid fragment or bid shortness). With neither of these in play and both sides bidding optimistically, you get too high.
July 14
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“Disaster prone” seems like a huge mischaracterization. I have a hard time believing that errors are anywhere approaching “occasional” as well. I'm hardly an expert and have bid kickback hundreds of times in the past 2.5 years with various partners who have kickback experience and had exactly 1 kickback confusion - which was closer to a brain fart than a real confusion.

The people who think it is confusing or disaster prone seem to see issues everywhere while those who actually play the convention and are comfortable with it can comfortably play it and reap the huge benefits in imps/matchpoints (especially in minor suits) without issue.

I think it is telling that many of the votes for 4 being natural in this auction are from people who are convinced kickback is confusing/hard while those who have experience have an easy vote for kickback.

That's even with a system that makes things tougher - most systems are either going to go full relay or convert to natural after 2. Having 2 be a relay that finds exactly 1 more card without anything else about responders shape seems like an unfortunate use of space that then makes the follow up auction a lot more ambiguous.
July 9
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Depending on how they play it, opener might still bid 1NT to clarify responder's strength and shape. However, opener would then need to come back and set spades immediately after if this was the case. That didn't happen here, so after not setting spades multiple times it doesn't seem possible that 4 could be natural.
July 9
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This seems like an easy invite. Aces, Ts, and 9s are all better than the classic 4321 HCP system accounts for, especially with Ts touching 9s. Two 4 card suits and one of them is a major. If partner has 4 hearts, your club holding is fabulous.

Rather than giving example hands, I have been pretty happy with the K&R hand evaluator so would recommend putting hands into that to see what it thinks.

Link: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi
July 6
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Added 2NT as lebensohl to the list. Would have thought it would be lebensohl here, but in discussion someone thought it should be both minors. That might also have been wishful thinking since it would work well on this hand :P
July 5
Eric Sieg edited this comment July 5
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2 being natural here makes some sense, but how do you make up for stayman while still accounting for the possible spade situations (4, 5+ non invite, 5+ invite, 5+ GF)?
July 3
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Zastera's argument below convinced me I'm wrong, 3 should be passable.
June 28
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That's a good point on partner could bid 4 COG. For some reason didn't think about it from that perspective, so 3 being passable makes more sense.
June 28
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Would have bid 1 originally, but I don't think I can pass now since 3 seems like it ought to be forcing. It seems like if partner wants to get out below game they needed to pass 3. What if partner has a 7 count with 5 spades and wants to head to game but doesn't know the right spot between either major or 3NT. Wouldn't they bid 3 to show the 5th spade to see how the auction develops? Our hand could certainly be a lot stronger than it is. Passing seems like regret for not starting with 1. If they have a heart void and couldn't stomach a pass of 3, them's the breaks.

I wonder if 4 should perhaps be a choice of games just in case partner has a doubleton heart and 5 spades.
June 27
Eric Sieg edited this comment June 27
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Magic the Gathering does this. There are different levels of rules enforcement with the Regular being the social/casual “potentially educate players but don't penalize them” and competitive being the more serious one where people get more nitpicky about the rules. Calling out the two levels might help with tournaments as well because it makes people more aware that such exists and it isn't the same as their daytime club game where anything goes.
June 15
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Are there units that have done a revenue share with clubs from tournaments? We floated some ideas about that but got tripped up on mechanics of how to determine which clubs get how much. Also questions of non profit funds going to for profit clubs, etc. Would certainly be great to learn how it is done elsewhere.
June 13
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