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But Barry, isn't 3M only invitational and not forcing?
Oct. 9
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As part of SS, a 3D rebid by responder is also a multiple meaning bid. It shows either a slam try with the minors or a diamond-other major hand too strong or distributional for a jump rebid of 3N (which guarantees the other major, opener can correct). In response to 3D, opener has 3 options: (1) 3N denies any interest in slam (2) 3S artificially shows a suitable hand for a minor suit slam. Responder will rebid 3N with the diamond-OM hand or higher with the minors. (3) 3H artificially shows a suitable hand for a slam opposite the diamond-OM hand. Responder bids 3N with the minors or artificially bids 3S to show the diamond-OM hand. If opener holds both majors he bids above 3N. With a diamond fit, opener rebids 3N, denying a major suit fit.
Oct. 7
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I don't know about you, but I hold far more weak hands than I do slam tries. As such, I would be loathe to lose crawling Stayman. Also, RS sounds FAR more complicated than SS, although It seems to do more.
I still think, as a less complicated alternative, a convention with less “moving parts” is easier for average players to add to their system. SS may not be the best way to handle the 3 hand types it covers, but I believe it may be the most practical.
Oct. 6
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I looked up SID but only found the 4333 meaning. My point was that SS shows 3 different hand types.

AS far as the merits of SS (or any convention) are concerned, aren't the criteria involved:
1-does it work
2-does it gain more than it loses
Oct. 4
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SS is intended for use only when responder needs more information. Responder can always bid 1N-3N if he chooses.
Oct. 3
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SID has only one meaning while SS Has 3: 4333 like SID; 5-3 fit without wasting an original 3C as Puppet; Club-other major game+ hand.
Oct. 3
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Once you use Stayman, you tell them about your major. If partner has the other major he jumps to 3N and you correct. The only extra info they get with SS is whether or not you hold a 5-card major, which I think is more useful to us.
Oct. 3
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With a 4333 game hand you no longer have to decide to use Stayman or jump to 3N. Using SS, bid 2C and if partner bids your major, say 2S, bid 3C. Partner will rebid a 5-card major or 3 of the other major with 4-4. Over either bid, partner has shown some shape and so you raise to 4 of partner's major with the square hand. If partner denies extra major length and rebids 3D, you return to his major (3S in this example) and give partner the final decision.
Oct. 3
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Sorry, forgot to answer your question. Over 3D, responder bids 3 of the other major. If opener bids the other major you have a fit and can try for slam. If opener rebids his major (showing 5), responder relays (over 2S-3S, 3N must be a slam with hearts and clubs otherwise responder would bid 4H with a fit).
Oct. 2
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3C is now multi purpose: game+ with clubs and the other major; square game force with a major; game force looking for a 5-3 fit.

Yesterday, we reached a slam with an opening 1H with partner holding a 1N hand with 5 hearts, while other expert pairs started with 1N, hiding the 5-card major. I held 98xxx in hearts and started with a Jacoby 2N. Opposite the 1N openers, they started with Stayman (hearts too weak for a transfer) but couldn't envision slam. If they played SS (or some form of Puppet) slam might have been reached.
Oct. 2
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Then what do you bid with a 5=3-32 minimum? 2 lets responder pass with 5 hearts and no game interest
April 21
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My initial assumption was 3 natural forcing………but this partner is quick on the trigger with a slam try, so I wasn't SURE if he wasn't making a slam try in clubs. Afraid to “cue bid” spades, I tried to show a minimum with 4 (but I should have bid 3N in retrospect). 4N was a mystery…Natural or key card in clubs. Again, the double cue bid would have removed any doubt about 3H.
April 21
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However, I came up with a fix for this style: cue bid twice with a strong fit; cue bid then raise is invitational; cue bid then new suit is a natural game force. I wish I had thought of that before!
Ps: Using the amended scheme above, a 3H jump can still show a fit jump (very descriptive).
April 21
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We had no agreement that cue then 3 was a suit
April 21
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If 3M is the weakest call, then the pass could be used to show a maximum minimum (invitational opposite a maximum) and keep partner from bidding game with extra strength over the 3M signoff.
Oct. 12, 2018
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yes
Oct. 11, 2018
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In this hypercompetitive environment I think it is more important to show a hand that has some values willing to compete to the 3 level versus the 3 preemptive raise. Now opener will be better placed to bid on or double. The defensive hands without a fit can double after they find their fit.

I know this is not mainstream, but maybe it should be. I held such a hand and was frozen out of the auction.
Oct. 11, 2018
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If you play equal level conversion, the cheapest new suit bid would be a scramble (here 2) and other bids are GOSH. To show a GOSH in the cheapest suit you must jump (if your suit here was spades you would have to jump to 3S, the downside of equal level conversion).
Oct. 10, 2018
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I open 1m with both (7 losers, 2 quick tricks, rebid, lead director, major suit support with a singleton). So what's not to like!?
Oct. 10, 2018
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I play a different form of Drury by a passed hand. 2 show 4+ trumps and ANY strength. 2 shows a limit raise with 3 trumps and 2M shows a single raise with only 3 trumps. If opener has no game interest opposite any limit raise, he closes out at 2M. If interested in game opposite an invitational raise with 4 trumps (2), he asks for opener's strength with 2. If responder is minimum, he rebids 2M. With a better hand, responder bids something else (you can show a flat hand as well as a long/short suit game try depending on how complicated you want to get).
This not only makes it easier to open a 4 card major, but to stay low opposite a minimum opening.
Oct. 10, 2018
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