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I agree with Peter. I don't trust the outcomes of round robins sufficiently to think that 9 teams being cut to 4 is better than 9 teams cut to 8. I, too, see no reason not to go to a straight knockout with exactly 8 or 16 entrants
Oct. 12
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One of the things that bothers me about using the round robin for seeding is that we sometimes have teams with no real chance to win enter the round robin phase just because they want to play against great players but these teams have no realistic chance to compete. When that happens, the RR rankings can depend largely on the kinds of hands that were dealt when each of the contending teams played the team(s) who were just there to have fun. I think there are reasonable ways that we could modify the impact of the phenomenon I described but they are complicated and not worth getting into unless the sense of the committee is that this is a serious matter with respect to how much the round robin should count toward quarterfinal seeding.
Oct. 12
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Glenn was a good local bridge player in Houston. He served 15 years in federal prison and was paroled in 1999, when he returned to Houston. He died in 2007. He was not a friend of mine but was more than an acquaintance.
June 30
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You have not specified (or I have missed) the condition of whether we are playing IMPs or matchpoints. At matchpoints, there could be a considerable premium to playing in hearts At matchpoints, I would bid 3 hearts which I consider virtually forcing, inasmuch as 2 hearts would be very strong. At IMPS, I would bid 4 spades (hopefully showing a void with a raise to 5 diamonds.
June 25
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I was his teammate for our 1981 Grand National Teams win and our 1987 Men's Teams win (the last one, now the Open Teams). George was a wonderful person and a great teammate. He shall be missed.
June 24
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I agree with both of Michael's points. It is not sufficient that a committee be unanimous as to the outcome; it should also be united with respect to the “frivolity” of the appeal.
If penalties for frivolous appeals are agreed upon, they should never be imp penalties.
June 19
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With respect to the last paragraph of your post, I would suggest that one might not have time to prepare a written statement if a committee were convened immediately after play concludes for the day, as is likely when everyone involved typically wants to go out for a meal. In a 90 board match, a match can have concluded at the lunch break and if the appeal would decide further continuation in the event, again there might be no good way for there to be sufficient time to prepare a written statement. I am unsure how to deal with situations such as these..I certainly think your comments are excellent but I am challenged
by these situations.
June 15
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In my opinion, if a Team is no longer eligible to represent the US, then the 2nd place finisher in the Trials should be selected to represent the US. I think the conditions you lay out are very reasonable for when a Team has withdrawal(s)
Nov. 1, 2018
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I voted on the lower numbers but did not comment. My comment was intended to apply to 13+. Suppose 13-16, I would hold RR1 of 2 days to reduce to 8. The remaining teams would play RR 2 of 1 1/2 days to reduce to 4 teams. These 4 teams would join the 4 losers from the round of 8 etc. Depending on preferences, we could use knockout or round robin to select reduce the USA2 field to 2 or 4, who would be joined by the losing semifinalists
of USA1. We have argued the choices before about whether to have 3 quarterfinalists in USA2 to be joined by the loser of USA1 or perhaps 1 team emerging from USA2 to play the loser of USA1 final (which is my preference for both fairness and keeping the duration of the tournament within reason, but I have been consistently outvoted.
July 1, 2018
Ira Chorush edited this comment July 1, 2018
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2 day RR to reduce to 4 (or 8) teams if entry is large enough to require. 2nd 2 day round robin to reduce to the number of teams eligible fo USA2 which will “fill out” the tournament. Any remaining losers of RR2 are eliminated.
June 29, 2018
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Arrangements with the hotel for a (very) late check out will need to be made since play would end about 2:45.
June 26, 2018
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With respect to 8 in Peter's post above, there should be no option in whether the opening lead is face up or face since if at player's option. information can be transmitted. Additionally, once specified as face up or face down, it should be specified that the card will be vertically oriented.
Feb. 23, 2018
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The original reason given for the desire to avoid overtime play was a desire to not impact the schedule when the overtime would affect the start of other matches and the desire not to send the declared winner into the next round with the handicap of having played more boards, often at an at an inconvenient time.

When we have USA1 and USA2, the final of USA1 is NOT a final match in the sense that the loser is still in the hunt to be one of our international teams. Also, a delay in this match has the same inconveniences as a tie in one of the earlier matches. So I would say that overtime need not be played between finalists in USA1 who tie

I propose that we define “final match” as the truly final match of the tournament; i.e. all the players and directors will go home following the conclusion of this match, and that only matches defined as final matches in this way will play overtimes
Oct. 10, 2017
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I would favor any reasonable method of breaking ties EXCEPT when we are selecting only 1 team and the match that is tied is the final, or when we are selecting 2 teams and the match for USA2 is tied.
Oct. 7, 2017
Ira Chorush edited this comment Oct. 7, 2017
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Would it be impolitic to note that all those who voted for 120 board matches are professional players and all those whose vote is shown for 90 board matches are not professionals. Chris didn't vote but his sentiments would lie with the amateurs.
May 31, 2017
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I would point to the recently completed USBF Seniors where (IMO) of the teams I rated in the top 3, 2 succeeded and the other lost (twice) in the finals. Again, IMO, we got what we wanted: the best possible representatives for the world championship.
May 30, 2017
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Yes, and for the same reason. If, for example, the coughing doctors only gave a legitimate signal after clicking their ball point pens, they could cough on many hands to disguise the hands on which a signal was being given. They could click their pen but not cough, which would also be no signal. This is simplistic but would increase the difficulty of decoding. There are more complex ways that I will not speak of here but that I would believe would be virtually immune to video evidence. If I am correct, only a statistical approach would reveal low probability of (successful) events, and could not, per se, prove it.
Sept. 16, 2015
Ira Chorush edited this comment Sept. 16, 2015
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Gavin, I apologize if this has already been discussed in this thread. Do you use 2S/1NT with some 15-17 HCP hands (assuming 14+-17 NT opening) or does 1NT-2S-(2NT or 3C)-4NT have a different meaning? I like to have the understanding that if you go through the relay you have a 5 card club suit that needs some help in a 5-3-3-2 and about 16 HCP, whereas if you bid 4NT directly over 1NT you have some 4-3-3-3. I also make 3D after the response to 2S do triple duty; as you play it but also a 5 card diamond suit that needs some help which is shown by 4NT after the relay.
Sept. 16, 2015
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IMO, as long as both members of a partnership are able to be physically present at the same table while play proceeds, cheating will continue to occur. Wise cheaters would use a 2 step process; 1st, an indicator to show whether or not a signal will be forthcoming and 2nd, the signal itself if the indicator indicated one was coming. This kind of 2 step process would be much harder to break, and it would confine cheaters to exercise discretion as to when the information was highly relevant, but it would not eliminate cheaters or cheating.

Despite the antipathy of a lot of posters to electronic play, I think that it is a necessity and the only proactive method guaranteed to work. Yes, there are now tiny electronic transmitters but it is my understanding that there are also instruments which can detect that a transmission is occurring. Maybe under those conditions there is still a way to cheat but I can't see it.
Sept. 16, 2015
Ira Chorush edited this comment Sept. 16, 2015
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Just so I can be clear, Kit, when you mention suits of requested shift, are you basing the suit requested on video evidence where you are relying on a code having been broken, or is the suit requested simply the suit partner would have requested if he had a way to communicate with the player about to make the shift?
Sept. 9, 2015
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