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I think the BriAn app is aimed mainly at clubs and perhaps lower level tournaments, where smart phones or tablets might be allowed? Looking at the website, it sounds very good!
Nov. 15
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@Yu: No, I don't mean “yet” - we don't use bridgemates primarily because the players don't want them, and although I know not everyone agrees, in my opinion these events are first for the players and second for the audience. But more importantly, at least for USBCs, we will be using tablets for bidding in the next year or two and then the contract and declarer will already be there, so all a player will have to do is enter the number of tricks taken to add the score. Much easier than Bridgemates.

I'll think about one huge database that's online, but I think you underestimate the number of names involved - our BBO database of names, pictures & biographies has about 800 names at the moment, and it definitely doesn't have everyone we see even at NABCs. I'm pretty sure that it will be easier for operators to have an electronic list of the players, sorted by team, who are playing at the time the operator is entering names. That will be 10 teams for the Reisinger final, 8 or 16 for the Senior KO, which is manageable. Obviously, I can have a giant database of full name –>screen name to use to create that smaller database. I'll look at how easy it is to use drop downs in Excel - so there could be an Excel document with just 10 lines and you could click on the team at your table and then select a name to copy?
Nov. 15
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Neither NABC major KOs nor USBCs use bridgemates, so we don't have names available that way. And neither of them have advance electronic lineup submissions (we did try that for a very short time for USBCs - it was far more trouble than it was worth, I'm afraid).

When I have time, I do make a list of player names and “screen names” for operators to enter. It hadn't occurred to me to put the document on the operator's computer instead of printing it, so the operator could copy and paste the names instead of typing them in. That's a great idea. I'll try to do it for the Senior KO & Reisinger (although the Reisinger is far and away the most difficult event to manage Vugraph for and I'm not going to make any promises that I'll have time to do a player name document for it).

Edit to add: In order to have a drop down menu, we'd need the Vugraph program to create it from a file of team & player names (I guess). Presumably, the list would have to be submitted by the event organizer. It often couldn't be done at the time the Vugraph broadcast is set up, because that is done before we know the teams in the event. For the NABC KO events, maybe we could link the ACBL roster to BBO to make the drop downs. For USBCs, I might be able to do it when I set up the broadcast. I'll add it to my “wish list” for the new Vugraph program, but not at the top of the list :-).
Nov. 13
Jan Martel edited this comment Nov. 14
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My #1 request is to have a way for someone other than the operator be able to enter things like the match score, teams that are playing, and player names.
Nov. 13
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@Yu: BBO does plan to update the Vugraph program and port it to the browser version of BBO (it currently runs on the Windows version, which is being phased out), but they don't know when that will be done. I have a long “wish list” for the new version; I will add some way of getting accurate player information, but it will continue to be dependent on the operator entering things exactly as the program requires, and that's not always trivial, especially with all the other tasks an operator has.
Nov. 13
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Vugraph player naming is definitely not consistent. For instance, I noticed that Pepsi had the highest HCP average of your sample, and then realized that not all of his hands are being counted, because in North America, we tend to call him Pepsi, not Pszczola. Similarly, Zia is usually called Zia but sometimes Mahmood, so you're not getting all of his hands. And there are so many people with the same last names that it would be surprising if there weren't some other Golds in your database.
Nov. 13
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I wondered about that also - in Debbie's claim thread, people are saying that the fact declarer already made a false claim is evidence that he is more likely than someone else to get the unblock wrong. Here, is the fact that declarer already misplayed the hand evidence that he should be down 1?
Nov. 10
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I seem to read BW more frequently than Chip, but he does answer verbal questions :-). Bergen said: “I'm not going to do anything stupid.”
Nov. 8
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Thanks, Nic & Richard, and yes, I do still need operators for San Diego, especially for the Reisinger final day.
Nov. 8
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Sorry I haven't gotten things posted on BBO yet - I'll try to do it soon! We will be covering the Senior KO from Saturday through the end, and the Reisinger on Sunday for sure and Saturday if the boards are played barometer style. If I can find ten operators for Sunday, we will cover all of the tables (if you are in San Diego and not playing on the final Sunday and interested in being an operator, please email or pm me). On Saturday we'll probably cover 4 or 6 tables.

Edit to add - I've now posted the schedule on the BBO Vugraph page, although it may take a few hours before you see it. Thanks for reminding me.
Nov. 8
Jan Martel edited this comment Nov. 8
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I believe the incident to which Kit refers is from a Grand National Teams match many years ago - I'm afraid I don't remember the hand, but the claim failed to take into account something the defense could do. Marty won the appeal and the match (I do not remember if his team won't he event).
Nov. 8
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Will miss him.
Nov. 3
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“Represent the USBF/ACBL in any WBF event;”
A person who is on probation for more than 90 days is ineligible to compete in any USBF event or to represent the USBF, CBF or MBF in any WBF event.
Nov. 2
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If only players could figure out what goes there! Although in fairness, it's gotten a lot better over the years.
Oct. 23
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I’ve always thought what we need is a “video game” that starts with something really simple, like a position where you have AQ opposite xx and if you play an x to the Q, you get fireworks and rewards (stars, points, gold coins, whatever) and then you advance to AQx opposite JTx and need to lead the J or T, not the low one, and if you succeed you get rewards, etc. teach trick taking starting with very basic things. Move up “levels” relatively easily until you’re hooked.
I hope you can find someone to develop such an app!
Oct. 22
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Of course that's possible, but for some reason bridge players always want to play all the boards!
Oct. 21
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I agree, but we do have a “ladder of penalties” for slow play in the KO stage already. We can revisit the slow play section of the GCOC if you want to do that. But there is an enormous difference between the KO and the Round Robin. In the KO, slow play penalties benefit only your opponents (except for barring from future events which either benefits or harms the players who would otherwise play against you). In the Round Robin, a VP penalty benefits all of the teams not involved in the match.
Oct. 21
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I'm trying to explore what we should do both in the situation where a board is removed and both pairs are at fault (if one pair had been at fault their team would have been penalized 3 IMPs - if both pairs are at fault, should there be any penalty?) and in the situation where a board was started before time expired but not finished until after time expired.
Oct. 21
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I'm not sure we're all discussing the same issue here. When a table in the Round Robin hasn't started a board at the end of regulation time, the Conditions of Contest provide that the Director removes that board and assesses a 3 IMP penalty against the pair the was at fault for the lateness. The question I'm trying to address here is what should be done when a table hasn't started a board and both pairs are at fault (not neither pair, since the table as a whole took too long for the round). A VP penalty against both teams would essentially provide a benefit to the rest of the field, the people who have been disadvantaged by having to start the next round late.
Oct. 20
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1. We already have cameras (recording on computers or SD cards) at each table.
2. When we get the software to use tablets for bidding, we will have an easy way to measure time taken in the bidding, as well as the time each hand starts. We won't need bridgemates, which are difficult to use when each table is in a separate room, because we'll have all the data you'd get from bridgemates on the tablets, which will be linked to wifi. We're still working on getting the tablet software done, though. Hope to have it for next year.
How much that will help with judging who used more time is hard to tell.
Oct. 20
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