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It's one of the fascinating parts of bridge that there aren't enough bids available to describe all the different hands each of us might hold. One of the arts of the game is to use the bids available to tell partner as much as he might need to know to decide on the strain and the level, but no more than he needs to know.

So you need bids to describe the difference between hands with 3 and 4 card support; between preemptive, mixed, invitational, and forcing strength levels; between hands that have a good suit and a fit and hands that have a fit but no good suit; and between hands that are balanced from hands that have a short suit somewhere, but invitational strength, hands with a short suit but just game forcing strength, and hands with a short suit but extra strength and slam interest.

The reason the commentators made a point of a non-competitive method which combined the invitational and forcing raises is because it runs counter to trying to describe the different types of hands you might hold to partner.

Competitive auctions aren't parallel to constructive auctions because, in competition, there are fewer options available to the opening side. Q-bid showing a limit raise or better isn't accepted because it's good but because, by many natural bidders, the other options are considered worse. The options involve giving up one or more natural useful bids such as a natural 2NT or a natural bid in one or more of the other suits.
July 24, 2013
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Question for everyone with experience playing against Multi:

When you play against 2 Multi, are your results showing a net plus or minus?

When you play against the 2M bids that opponents who play Multi use instead of natural 2\2 weak, are your results showing a net plus or minus?

Do you use one of the ACBL defenses or something else?
July 16, 2013
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From Christina's experience it seems that the major benefits of Multi come from (a) playing a wide 0-10 range, and (b) opponents not having agreements how to handle unfamiliar sequences.

I would expect that the 0-10 range creates swings both ways, like any wide-range preempt. It creates problems for the opening side as well as the opponents.

I'd also expect that the gains from opponents not having agreements about how to handle unfamiliar sequences disappear when you play against opponents who see Multi all the time. That's not unique to Multi. Lack of familiarity with anything causes problems until people become familiar with it. As we gain familiarity with any convention, we often can't understand why we had ever had problems with it to begin with.
July 16, 2013
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We have to respect Kit's experience with the method but … didn't Meckwell give up Multi? That suggests that one of the most successful pairs in the world didn't find Multi was showing a profit against World Class competition, at least not in the context of their system.

Most ACBLers have limited experience against Multi. Here's mine. Some of my partners and I played weak NTs. Like Jack, we found that playing an immediate double of 2D as a balanced weak NT (or some very strong hand with its own suit), worked well. We could use our normal bidding structure as if our weak NT had been overcalled with any kind of 2D. The amount of disruption from Multi was minimal, and the amount of specific sequences that needed discussion negligible. If the auction went 2D-P-2M then our normal methods over a 2M preempt worked well enough. If 2D-P-3M (pass or correct), we found that suits natural, double for takeout, pass and double showing cards, seemed to work pretty well. Turns out our methods of handling competition over a weak NT were very similar to some of the approved defenses to Multi 2D.

Multi didn't seem to cause any more headaches than a normal weak 2-bid, except that we got an extra bid for our balanced weak NT hands to boot.

I wonder if Fantunes 2-bids would be another story.
July 16, 2013
John Brady edited this comment July 16, 2013
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Double risks a misunderstanding here. Is it responsive or for penalty? If partner thinks it shows tricks, he may guess to pass when we should be bidding. I play double in many situations where they bid and raise one suit is responsive, and in some situations just shows cards and no clear direction. Because my hand is behind the opening bidder, and the opponents are vulnerable at the 3-level, I would play this double as penalty.

If you haven't discussed the exact situation, I think the best strategy is to avoid making partner guess. Make an unambiguous bid and discuss this specific sequence after the hand is over. Every time I assume that a bid “must” mean “A” because it's like situation “B” where we have an agreement, I find in the post-mortem that partner thought it “must” mean “X” because it was more like situation “Y” where we have a different agreement.

If double was clearly for penalty, and I could be sure that partner was 1435, I'd certainly prefer to make a penalty double and lead trumps. Doubling 3 for penalty would be reasonable matchpoint aggression.

But on this auction, I wouldn't be surprised if the opponents had 10 Spades. There aren't enough HCP to go around, so one of the opponents and partner probably have compensating distribution. Even repeated Spade leads might not be enough to beat 3. Doubling a 9 trick contract when the opponents have 9 trumps is iffy, but if they have 10 trumps, it's a long term loser.

I'll settle for 4. If partner moves over that, we'll make game. If partner passes, we can be reasonably sure of going plus if the dummy has 4 and might go plus if it only has 3.

Besides, as Bruce says, there's always a chance one opponent will bid 4.

July 11, 2013
John Brady edited this comment July 11, 2013
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The ACBL Alert Chart specifically lists “Opener's 1NT rebid, if strong” as a bid that requires an alert.

http://www.acbl.org/play/AlertChart.pdf
July 2, 2013
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I agree. You are entitled to ask to confirm your suspicion that an alertable call has not been alerted. One of the remedies for failure to alert is to roll back the auction to give your side a chance to make the bid or play they would have made with the proper information.

As soon as you confirm the failure to alert, it's your obligation to call the director immediately to preserve, as much for the director as for your side, one of the corrective measures prescribed by the laws.
July 2, 2013
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We can't be sure of opener's intentions with 3 and we should try to allow for several possibilities. Partner can be looking for the best game or have a fit and some slam interest. In these probing auctions, investigating game comes before slam. I think voters interpreting our partnership's bids as slam first have it backwards.

3 doesn't have to promise 3-card support. With no doubt about either s or s, and no fit for , opener would bid 3NT to play.

But as far as opener knows 3 is just looking for the best game with an unbalanced pattern. He doesn't want to go past 3NT with cards opposite your shortness, but he does with no cards opposite shortness. So with doubt about either s or s, opener would try to show which suit he had doubt about. Opener would bid 3 as a waiting bid with s stopped but either no stopper or the wrong kind of stopper, like Axx. With cards opposite your shortness, he could bid 3 to show you that he had s but doubt about s.

If you bypass 3NT over 3, he'll know you have shortness. He'll correct to the right strain on the next turn.

I don't think the right strain can be s. Opener can't be 3523. If partner had 5s - or even 4 good s and an interest in a 4-3 fit - he would bid 3 over 3 to cater to a 5341 pattern in your hand.

With a hand that wasn't right for 3NT opposite shortness in either or s, opener doesn't need you to start Q-bidding. If you bid 3NT now to show a card, and he has some slam interest in s, he will Q-bid himself on the next round over your 3NT.

But there was only one way for Opener to suggest NT with cards and a weak holding. That was 3.

3NT by responder now allows for all possibilities.
July 1, 2013
John Brady edited this comment July 1, 2013
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Similar to John A, except I think Q should show extras, forcing to either 3NT or 4 of a minor, not necessarily to 5 of a minor.

I don't like 2NT as a relay with a minimum hand in this situation. The reason you want to compete without extra high cards is either a fit for Clubs, or good long Diamonds without a fit for Clubs. It's critical that you show partner which it is … NOW. If you don't, and the opponents bid over your good-bad 2NT, on the next round your partnership will be guessing where to play, how high, and in some cases, whose hand it is.

Also, if your side belongs in NT at all, using 2NT as a minimum relay may wrong side the NT.

I think standard is for Opener to show extras by a Q bid, and weakness either without a fit or without an independent suit by passing. Stoppers can wait. I don't think 2 to show either a limited hand with a stopper or a GF is standard.
June 24, 2013
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Instead of the double of 3, what would it have meant if partner had bid 3 in your methods?
June 24, 2013
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It seems, however, that my ideas weren't definitively recognized until the day when Larry Cohen published his first work on what he called “The Law,” attributing the origin of the idea, quite honestly, to me as the author.
June 21, 2013
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The analogy of bridge conventions to chess openings has a flaw: Chess requires no communication with partner. Bridge does. Therefore bridge requires agreements beforehand about how to defend against a particular convention, AND all its follow-ups, AND variations. Unlike chess, you cannot work out a plan at the table.

However, I don't think that's a good argument for the current restrictions on conventions. Although there are a large number of conventions in bridge, there are only a limited number by type: e.g. two-suiters/unknown suit/transfers; weak/strong/multiple meanings; artificial/natural. While in theory it may be best to have a specific defense for every treatment or convention, and every follow-up, it's impractical. A simple plan is to have common defenses for each type.

For example, if opponents' convention shows a known two-suiter, always play unusual over unusual. If they play a transfer opening or response, play the same defensive methods whatever the transfer opening is or whatever the transfer response is. If you like your methods when you open 1NT, use the same methods when you overcall or balance with a natural 1NT or 2NT. If you like your defense when they open 1NT, use the same system when they overcall 1NT. If you have a favorite method against a Precision Diamond opening, use the same defense against a Polish Club, and against a transfer Walsh Club. Use your defense against one under preempts against two-under or three under. A defense to any artificial unknown preempt type might be: double by an unpassed hand shows cards - the higher the opening artificial bid the more cards you show, NT shows more cards, suits are natural, later bids are takeout. double of an artificial opening bid by a passed hand shows that suit.

Bridge seems to be thriving in other countries with a looser attitude towards conventions. It's stagnant or dwindling here. Innovation is one of the attractions of the game for young people. Time to loosen up.
June 21, 2013
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Great hand, and great analysis Adam. Thanks for sharing.
June 11, 2013
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Congratulations. All of you were terrific. Wow!

June 8, 2013
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I think a second round jump to 3S by responder should set trumps and be slammish. Problem is on this hand it won't get you anything meaningful from Opener, even if you play Serious 3NT. A non-serious cue bid of 4C won't give you the information you need because the key to the hand is that opener has very strong Spades and no points in Hearts.

A possible solution is for opener to not show shape on the second round. Skip over 4 small Hearts and rebid where you live, which is Spades. Showing strength rather than shape works for me but I'm in a minority about that. The modern bidding tendency is to show shape instead of where your values are concentrated. Admittedly bypassing the Heart “suit” to bid where you live has its own problems: (a) how will you find a 44 Heart fit, and (b) some partners would assume you have 6 Spades. On the plus side, (a) since Opener's Hearts are so weak, if you don't find a Heart fit, maybe you're not missing anything, and, (b) if partner assumes you have 6 Spades that's not so bad. AQJxx is closer to a 6 card suit than xxxx is to a biddable 4-card suit.

Unlike bypassing the Heart “suit,” Barry Goren's plan for Opener to rebid 2NT on the third round should have wide appeal. It allows Responder to complete his pattern with a 3C bid. Now Opener's hand knows that the 4 small Hearts are an asset opposite partner's singleton. Then rebidding 3S over 3C will be forward-going suggesting a concentration in Spades and a useful hand opposite Responder's singleton Heart. Even if you don't play “Last Train,” that may be enough to get partner to head toward slam.

About your other questions:

Your 3S didn't promise extras, but it didn't describe anything extra about your hand. 2NT would at least suggest a 5422 pattern.

If you rebid 2NT, responder should rebid 3C NOT 3D. Opener will be closer to knowing responder's pattern and where his HCP are if responder bids 3C. 3D doesn't suggest anything about responder's holding in the other two suits.

4C by responder over 3S didn't accomplish much, but 5S over 3S wouldn't be reasonable either. A jump to 5S wouldn't ask for good trump when there is an unbid suit. 5S\3S would demand that opener bid slam with second round control in the unbid suit. That's not responder's problem.
June 8, 2013
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Abstain. “Picture bids” vs. “fast arrival” is a basic 2\1 issue that must be discussed with partner. The “correct” bid depends on partnership agreement.

Picture bids need GF values largely in the bid suits and no controls in unbid suits. Fast arrival is a 2nd round jump to game on minimum wherever your points are whether or not you have controls in the unbid suits.

There's been a long, and sometimes hot, debate over the best approach. Lawrence, Bridge World Standard, and others use picture bids. Larry Cohen, Rodwell's 2\1 book, and others, preach fast arrival.

I like picture bids; my partners like “fast arrival.” Sadly, most teachers today teach fast arrival.

For picture bids, I'd say Axx, Kxx, or QJx as minimum trump. As trumps weaken, it's more likely that there's (1) a more descriptive rebid, or (2) the 5-3 Major fit isn't the best strain, or (3) we need to warn of a slow loser in trumps. Jxx, xxx, and even Qxx, suggests either a rebid of responder's suit, or, with slow values in the unbid suits, a rebid in NT and maybe a raise of the Major on the 3rd round.

A 2nd round raise to 2M shouldn't set strain or promise extras. Responder may have rebid problems with (1)Hx trying to avoid NT with an unstopped suit or from the wrong side, or (2) 3-card support unattractive for a 5-3 Major fit, or (3) a hand too big for any raise. Hands with multiple features often need 3 bids to complete the description, or to learn more to make the decision themselves. Opener's 3rd round bid should aim to help with that.

I'd say: (1) use 1M-2x, 2y-2M as a waiting bid. (2)Use 1M-2x, 2y-3M to set trump and send slam messages. (3) Use 1M-2x; 2y-4M as a picture bid making opener captain.

With 4-card support, the question usually is level, not strain. Use a GF Major raise unless you have the perfect picture bid hand where the K or Q of responder's suit is the critical slam card opposite the perfect minimum, e.g. KQxx, xx, xx, AQJxx or AKxxx.
June 3, 2013
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Opps sorry. Meant to pick 3 Spades. Keyboard on my new cell phone is not as user friendly as my old Blackberry.
June 3, 2013
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Perhaps the original poster has forgotten, but after Caesar says that line about cowardice, he is goaded by conspirators mocking his fears and hinting of the glory of being crowned by the Senate. He ignores the warning signs of danger, goes to the Senate AND GETS SLAUGHTERED!

So much for false bravado.

There is every reason to be pessimistic about this hand. Opener has length, and is a heavy favorite to have strength, in responder's void suit. Opener is a favorite to be short in responder's long suit. Opener's hand is limited to 11-15 HCP and the odds are that some of those limited values are in Hearts and wasted opposite the void. The responder has 6 losers and, in the space available, there is no reasonable way to investigate whether opener can cover enough of those losers for game let alone slam.

The idea of immediately thinking about 7C is unfathomable. If partner opened with a potentially much stronger 11-20 HCP one Heart bid would you be thinking about grand slam in Clubs?

After a Flannery 2D opening, it seems like the most rational bid at matchpoints is a natural, constructive, but not forcing 3C.

Vulnerable at Imps, perhaps the risk\reward ratio might justify bidding 5C over Flannery, hoping for a lucky dummy or favorable defense.

Over 3C, if opener raises to 4, responder can bid game. If opener jumps to 5 Clubs, there's a rational basis for hoping he has the right pattern and controls for responder to try 6. If opener bids anything else over 3C, responder can rebid 4C and, having given a reasonable picture of long strong clubs with some game interest, can leave it to opener to decide whether he has enough controls to bid game.

If partner can't take another bid over 3C, you won't be missing anything.

But unlike Julius Caesar, you won't get slaughtered.
May 31, 2013
John Brady edited this comment May 31, 2013
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I don't have enough experience playing against transfer Walsh to have strong opinions about what's best.

When you don't know what's best, go with what's simplest. That usually means what is most like your other methods.

For me that means, over transfer Walsh: double of the transfer bid is that suit just like a double of any artificial bid. I'm happy to have a chance to direct a good lead and show some length with a hand that I wouldn't have been able to overcall. With a stronger hand and\or a longer suit, bid it instead of doubling. Bidding the suit they're transferring to is takeout for the other suits. I prefer 2C to be natural and a jump Q in the suit they're transferring also to be natural … because I play 1m--1M- as natural when the opponents are just playing standard.

If you have a natural 2C overcall, you need a way to show it. The method David describes doesn't have one. On a frequency basis, the one suited hand will occur more often than the 2-suited hands. Besides you have reasonable alternatives to describe the 2-suit hands: jump to 2NT to show the other 2 suits; or start with an overcall one of your suits; or if you have the suit they're using to transfer and the other suit, you might be able to start with double and then get your second suit into the auction on the next turn. But there's only one way to get your natural constructive 2C overcall into the auction: you have to bid it. Finally, in my experience, overcalling 2C is awkward for opponents playing a short Club. It's harder to find, and compete in, a fit in the other minor, and it preempts the other Major.

After losing too many suits against them, I do have strong feelings about what's best against short or Polish 1 Club and Precision 1D: (1) Against could-be-short or Polish 1C: double=takeout for Majors, no implied support for Diamonds; 2C=Clubs, 2D=any strength Michaels. (2) Against 1D short: double=takeout for Majors, no implied support for Clubs; 2D=Diamonds; 2H=minimum Michaels; 3D=very strong Michaels.
May 31, 2013
John Brady edited this comment July 23
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Can be played several ways:

Non-forcing and invitational with 4-card Major and a fit in partner's minor. As Danny Sprung says, this is useful if your partnership frequently raises responder's Major on three card support, not useful if you don't.

(There are other ways to invite game after a raise with possible 3-card support that also allow you to stop in three of partner's minor, but that's another thread.)

One round force and at least invitational to game with a fit in partner's minor. Not very useful to play it this way, but some people do.

Game forcing with a fit in partner's minor, may be looking for the best game or may have slam interest, depending on follow-up auction

Game forcing, not necessarily a Club fit, could be a cue bid for slam. Ycch … but I have partners that play this.

Whichever way you play responder's 3m rebid by an unpassed hand, you still have to decide if you play 3m as non-forcing or a one-round force by a passed hand.

Bottom line is this is one of those sequences that you must discuss with every partner you have! It is not safe to bid 3 of partner's minor and hope partner guesses right about how you intended it.

If you haven't discussed it, don't do it!!! Make some unambiguous bid and then agree how to play this sequence after the hand is over.
May 31, 2013
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