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The same arguments that I've been making for years. But this time we were able to convince some people in high places.
Nov. 8
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Update: The Harvard Undergraduate Bridge Club has been approved! We are now a recognized student organization. I'm thrilled! Thanks to everyone who supported us along the way.
Nov. 6
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Randy,

Thanks for your offer to help. A former dean of the College has advised that alumni involvement would be counterproductive. Apparently, H looks down on alumni influence on student groups.
Sept. 29
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For the sake of the longevity of our organization, I feel strongly that we should apply as we are- not under the guise of something else.
Sept. 27
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Thanks for your advice, Robert. I have now been put in touch with not one, but two former deans of Harvard College. I've also met with UC reps and someone from the Dean of Students Office. So I'm happy to say the lobbying campaign is in full swing, and I'm hopeful for the decisions next month. Also, I know Stephanie T. from ACBL–we've been in touch about a number of things in the past years, and she has been supportive of the cause.
Sept. 27
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Dan,

Nice to hear from you. The club was inactive for 4 years, and when I restarted it, all I inherited was the old club's website. So I do not have the boards or the books you mentioned. ACBL kindly provided us with a full set of boards and cards last term, so I'm happy to say we already have plenty of those. The books would be nice to have, and I'll take a look in the Lowell Library for them!
Sept. 27
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Jeff,

Thanks for your support. There are requirements for recognition, such as: having at least ten undergrad members, furthering the mission of Harvard College, not discriminating based on various factors, etc. As far as I know, we meet all their requirements, and the powers that be have acknowledged as much. Our problem is that there's another club, the Card Games Club, that could be seen as a superset of our club. Their recognition is the roadblock to ours.
Sept. 26
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Thank you.
Sept. 25
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Robin, I really do hope you and Yichen get the NEU club going. And I can assure you that the Association for the Promotion of Interplanetary Expansion is real! However, I can't stomach the thought of merging with them. The relationship we already have with the Card Games Club is preferable.
Sept. 25
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Sept. 25
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Matthew, thank you very much for offering to do that! My assessment of the situation suggests that our club has been rejected for political reasons, and not for anything specific to the game of bridge. I say this because there are clubs that promote much “sillier” activities than bridge that currently enjoy recognition from Harvard (take a look at the link someone posted below to get a sense). While I really appreciate your support, I wouldn't want you to spend time on a letter that may fall on deaf ears over here.
Sept. 25
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Peg, thanks for your advice and support. I think bringing up the other schools with bridge clubs is an effective tactic. Maybe ACBL can put a list together for me.
Sept. 25
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John, this is essentially the status quo, except that the bridge part of the Card Games Club is completely unofficial and subject to the consent of the CGC leaders.
Sept. 24
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David and Mike, I appreciate your advice. Taking over the CGC is not a practical option since they don't hold meetings, or for that matter, elections. I am in touch with some people on the UC and will try my best to bring them around.
Sept. 24
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Andy,

I am reaching out to my house UC reps and the guy who is in charge of the relevant UC subcommittee. In the meantime, we are working with the Card Games Club to get some of the privileges that recognized clubs enjoy.
Sept. 24
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There's a Backgammon Society and an Esports Association with recognition right now, in addition to the Card Games Club
Sept. 24
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Yes, it seems Ms. Dunn is a triple Harvard grad. Maybe she can help. I do not believe MIT has an undergraduate club like Harvard does. They do have an ACBL sanctioned game that's open to the public, but only a few students play there.
Sept. 23
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1. We have 103 people on our email list (all current students). 13 showed up to our last meeting. If I gave an attendance average for last semester, it would be around 6. The semester just started so it's hard to gauge the trend at this point. I should note that the DSO & UC do not ask for membership figures when applying for recognition, and they certainly don't monitor it actively.

2. I don't have access to that information. Clubs vary widely in size and attendance. For instance the Card Game Club likely claims to have 100 or so “members”. But if they have never held a meeting, what does that even mean? In my limited experience, I can think of a number of clubs that regularly draw under 10 people to meetings, but have never had their legitimacy brought into question.
Sept. 23
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Poker has “sex appeal” and they have managed to attract a lot of interest from the student body. This probably makes them think they're safe for now. As to why they don't hold meetings–there is already a vibrant community of poker players on campus who meet and play in the evenings, so essentially, there hasn't been a need for a club to step in and organize games.

Clubs, however, are subject to a non-trivial review by the Dean of Students Office a year after gaining recognition, and then sort of a rubber-stamp review every subsequent year. We'll see how the cards fall for them in the coming months.
Sept. 23
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Sept. 23
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