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Agree with Nick. Unless Gal himself confirmed that his account was being used without his authorization, barring that account from BW has to be very wrong.


Aug. 25, 2015
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What pressure will this bring to bear on the Cayne team in regard to their 2015 win?
Aug. 25, 2015
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Insofar as keeping the members of the committee secret… We know they are 5 of 15 possible members, and others have been excluded because they've posted here and said they were not on it, others were not even in Chicago. So it's easy to discern with fair assurance of accuracy the composition of the committee. Saying it's secret is kind of silly at this point.
Aug. 24, 2015
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Except that “should” the matter be dropped there? What if this guy has a pattern of this behavior and everyone figures that as long as they are protected, every man for himself? Not everyone we face at the table is savvy enough to know the proper thing to do and might be ill equipped or unable to protect themselves.

That's why it's so important to record the incident.

Now if it was some non-veteran player, I wouldn't record, but I'd still call the director so the offending player would learn the proper way to behave in this situation. A win-win situation.
Aug. 23, 2015
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Geoff,

Let's say we were willing to accept that "of the four players at the table, Mike was at least 1000 times more likely to get the cards back in the correct slot than the others combined.) Personally< I am not so sure that at the top bracket of a KO event, he'd be more qualified to determine who held which cards throughout the hand, but for the sake of your argument we will accept it.

So then how did the cards get in the wrong place do you suppose?


Aug. 22, 2015
Mario Fonzo edited this comment Aug. 22, 2015
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RHO, a Grand Life Master, has to know what he was doing. Additionally, playing as a professional, it seems clear he was definitely trying to gain an advantage. If he's willing to do this at your table, he's willing to do it at anyone else's table too (and even perhaps has been).

If players do not submit a recorder form, then this type of behavior is allowed to proliferate.
Aug. 22, 2015
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When we know better we do better.
Aug. 22, 2015
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Ken,

Did you happen to notice the list of well known players who “liked” Gerard's comment? That will really make your head spin.
Aug. 21, 2015
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Cam,

Weischel and Sontag don't seem to have suffered at all from the shame of this gross injustice. If they haven't seen their way to do the right thing in 36 years, I guess you can stop waiting for them to come around.
Aug. 21, 2015
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I'd be interested in seeing the 6 fixes you mentioned in your post. You said you'd post them if anyone was interested. Josh early on said he'd like to see them, and so would I.
Aug. 21, 2015
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Rainer: When Kamil claims he can not win any high level tournament any more because of cheating, does it follow that all major tournaments nowadays are won by cheaters?
If yes the claim looks to me absurd.




Kamil: It's a pretty sad state of affairs when I can honestly say I can't see myself ever being able to win a big event again because I don't cheat.

My question might be that if Michael has won big events in the past, has cheating become so rampant and widespread now that it is no longer possible without cheating? Kind of sounds that way to me, but I don't want to put words in his mouth.

Michael Kamil is not a babe in the woods - he's been at the top for quite a while.

I would agree with you that the claim ‘seems’ absurd on its face - absurdly alarming and fraught with unpleasant implications because someone as credible as Michael said it.

But we shouldn't merely write it off as absurd. I think it was very bold and courageous of him to make such a provocative statement.

Rainer Just look who won major tournaments in the last years.

Indeed!
Aug. 21, 2015
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Yeah, but how can you separate strategy from good bridge? They are joined at the hip aren't they? When you say you play your best bridge on every hand you don't mean to say that you bid and play exactly the same against C players as you would against Meckwell, do you?
Aug. 20, 2015
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I would think that on balance, against such a weak field, you would get a much greater percentage of good results, not poor ones.

If “playing opponents” was cheating, then there wouldn't be an honest expert player left standing.
Aug. 20, 2015
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“Meanwhile, on other front(s) there are more serious & flagrant things that are going on right before all of our eyes.

The League chooses not to proceed, prosecute or do ANY thing about them, ‘tho they are known!”

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Known by whom?
Aug. 20, 2015
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Michael,

When in your opinion would it be appropriate to seal records?
Aug. 20, 2015
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Are all these boards old, worn out or in otherwise defective condition and need to be replaced? And wouldn't they stand up better and wouldn't less cards fly out of them if people didn't toss them on the floor?
Aug. 20, 2015
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Melanie,

I am specifically referring to the indisputable fact that we are absent facts presented in the Committee, the actual charges brought and rationale of the committee for issuing the masterpoint penalty and probation.

The longer I ponder this matter, the more complex and less straightforward it becomes.

From the list of members of the EOC this year, we can reasonably conclude that very qualified individuals heard the case, and that at least 3 of them decided based on what they were provided (which we do not know), that this was the right thing to do about it. And the vote may have even been unanimous for all we know. Hell, even the U.S. Supreme court requires only a 5-4 vote to make life changing decisions for millions.

The whole story actually raises more questions than it provides answers. People were harsh on those who judged Mike without benefit of his input, but seem happy to judge the ACBL and the Committee's actions without benefit of their input. I was as guilty of that as anyone else. The difference is that the Committee has to suffer the slings and arrows directed at them without the ability to publish their side of the story.

The undeniable fact is that we do not have the whole story. None of us has except for Mike and the members of the committee and probably some high ups in the ACBL.

Everyone seems to think the committee threw the baby out with the bathwater and they would never have come to the conclusion that the committee did. We even heard from someone who suggested quite emphatically that the matter probably would never have even gone to the EOC in the first place if only there were a better bridge player serving as National Recorder.

While based solely on Mike's accounting of events, we could reach some of those conclusions, we do not know all (or even any) of what the committee heard and saw.

It might be easy for us to state that this matter should never have gone to committee, this was no big deal, small potatoes, procedural penalty, behavioral issue, unjust, cruel and unusual punishment, etc., but none of us has seen the Recorder Form nor heard any of the facts not disclosed in Mike's post.
Aug. 20, 2015
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Jack,

If all there was to the story was that he didn't call the Director when he should have, none of us would be posting to this thread, and we can take that conclusion to the bank.
Aug. 20, 2015
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Poor Jim.
Aug. 20, 2015
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Lawyering up and clamming up go hand in hand. Rest assured, the ACBL has a tsunami headed its way.
Aug. 19, 2015
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