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I agree that if you play good/bad 2NT then 3 shows extras; but, by doubling 2 for penalties you show extras (especially at IMPs), and then bidding 3 on the next round shows the length.
Note that the opponents will never pass out the double (but, fine with me if they do) since they have at most 7 s combined and at least 8 s combined (partner is not bidding 1NT holding a 6-card suit).

I would think an immediate 3 call would preclude having such strong hearts (or be even more distributional than this hand). By doubling first you describe your hand better to partner who can more easily decide among the following options:
a) a partial
b) a game
c) 3NT

Note: I'm not going to base my bidding upon the fear of a hesitation or a slow double by partner.
Besides, I personally don't think passing a penalty double of 2 is a logical alternative when I haven't shown the extra length, I probably only have 2 defensive tricks in a contract, and the opponent's hold at least an 8-card fit (and remember the conditions of contest indicating expert opponents who are generally conservative!).
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I’m concerned about missing a game. 3 is basically just a competitive noise. After doubling 2 and then bidding 3 on the next round I will have described my strength and pattern fairly well to partner.
July 14
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My understanding is that the normal and fairly simple but effective method to proceed after a Reverse Drury call is:
1) Game tries always start with a 2 call followed by the game try
2) 2NT (18-19) and new suits immediately at the 3 level are natural slam tries.
3) 4-level jumps should therefore be splinter bids

Thus, even though I have heart wastage I possess 2 aces and side suit shortness.

Since partner didn’t show a 2nd suit my best guess for partner’s hand is something like:
KQxxxx
x
AKx
KQx
July 13
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All,
I regret to say that I was careless in searching the list of 2018 USBC Team Trial pairs for those who played Flannery.
Here is my updated list:

Boby Levin - Steve Weinstein
Marty Fleisher - Chip Martel
Michael Rosenberg - Roger Lee
Robert Hamman - David Berkowitz
Chris Willenken - Eidad Ginossar
Paul Lewis - Linda Lewis
Nick Nickell - Ralph Katz
Oren Kriegel - Ron Smith
John Botzum - Miriam Botzum
Peter Boyd - Steve Robinson
Ross Grabel - Mark Feldman

Bottom Line:
1) 11 of 44 (non-strong club) pairs played Flannery.
2) Those who didn't primarily played simple weak twos; some played multi 2; a couple played both majors; and a couple played other pattern bids.
3) It is inconceivable that this many top pairs (25%) would play a convention that was inferior. This large of a percentage in an event of the highest caliber is a testament to the value of the convention.

*** YEAH…I realize that the last sentence was a little bit over the top…
July 12
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Despite one's initial impression this hand really isn't that strong.

With LHO having the Ace, the King likely to be behind me, s not breaking (assuming no psych), and partner likely to be broke we have a losing trick count of about 6. Thus, I'll just make a simple natural 2 overcall. If the bidding comes back to me at a low level I can offer up s on the next round.

Admittedly we might miss a game if partner has the right heart length / strength if I make a simple 2 overcall. Without a firm partnership agreement about what my double followed by a 2 bid means I think I'll take the low road.
July 12
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Larry's method over 2 is basically a simpler version of what I posted above…

But by using 2 and 2 as invitational or stronger in the respective minor (instead of Larry's GF) it frees up 3 and 3 to be both minors competitive and both minors GF, respectively…situations that often occur.
July 11
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Cornelia,

See following link for list of teams entered.
http://www.usbf.org/2018usbc-teams-entered

You can click on a player’s name to get a summary of the system they play. Total of 21 teams

56 pairs
- 12 pairs play strong club (they use 2 for more necessary conventions)
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44 “standardish” systems (if I classified them correctly)

8 pairs of these 44 play Flannery…I’m sure they wouldn’t be playing Flannery unless they deemed it valuable.

sorry….my quick examination of the player systems missed a couple pairs. I only clicked on the left column of player names. Thanx to Kit and Michael for correcting my initial list.
July 11
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Unfortunately we don't know what partner needs for slam.

This auction clearly shows the value of playing immediate overcalls of 3 and 3 as major suit transfers.
July 11
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Partner is a passed hand and he can always balance if your side belongs in the auction.
July 11
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Having played Flannery for decades and been on national appeals committees for two decades I’d like to state that there was a failure to alert the 1NT call.
Either the 1NT call was Kaplan Inversion (KI) or they are required to alert to signify an unusual meaning for the 1NT call and thereafter disclose that they have an agreement where it might conceal extreme spade length since they are playing Flannery. Note: I can’t imagine suppressing 6+ unless having primary support.

As to the effectiveness and value of playing Flannery let me just add:

1) Playing Flannery in combination with Kaplan Inversion is much more powerful than the sum of the two conventions alone.
2) The great theoretician Marshall Miles was a very vocal advocate of Flannery (especially in combination with KI). He also repeatedly lobbied the laws commission to allow KI on the ACBL general convention chart.
3) Just seeing the list of pairs in the recent 2018 team trials playing Flannery (and obviously not a strong club system) clearly proves the value of the convention:

Boby Levin - Steve Weinstein
Robert Hamman - David Berkowitz
Chris Willenken - Eidad Ginossar
Peter Boyd - Steve Robinson
Paul Lewis - Linda Lewis
July 11
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Some Directors at our club always try to use a Web movement when possible, but some have not learned how to do it.

Of note: we had 16 tables for the ACBL-Wide Instant matchpoint event on Monday but the Director apparently could NOT use a Web movement (ended upon with 2 sections of 8 tables). He said that ACBL conditions of contest for the event specifically forbade it…???
July 11
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Steve,
I agree these are possible interpretations, but
1) I've seen hands where 5 of a minor is used as splinter; but, VERY strange to splinter at the 5 level ABOVE the assumed trump suit. Never seen it before.
2) EKB at the 5-level often exists when there is no other practical use for a call, but assuredly a natural interpretation should generally be one's 1st choice for very unusual bids.
July 10
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I just added the 2nd sentence above “at the exact same time” that you commented.

In any case, it's the generally accepted standard expert method of bidding this pattern holding this kind of strength.

Additionally you might miss a game by only bidding 1 followed by 2 in another auction.
July 10
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Because this hand has enough playing strength to reverse by bidding spades twice to show 5=6 in the two suits.
Mandatory if partner is 1-2, 2-2, or 2-3 in my suits in order to play in the best fit.
July 10
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Seems to me that 5 must be natural….I can't really think of another reasonable interpretation other than 5=6.
Assuredly we must have a slam somewhere. When interpreted correctly partner should be able to tell what the proper contract should be.
July 10
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2 Flannery!
(but definitely in combination with Kaplan Inversion…much more powerful together)
July 10
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2. Flannery!
(but definitely in combination with Kaplan Inversion!)
July 10
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I've usually played the following, but not sure how good it is.

If 2C or 2D overcall is MAJORS, then
X = suggests defense

2D = to play

2H = inv+ in Clubs (later double may just show game values)

2S = inv+ in Diamonds (but GF if over 2C) 

(after 2H or 2S then 3m is reject; others show stoppers)
2N = Lebensohl (delayed cuebid shows stopper)

3C = minors, competitive

3D = minors, GF

3M = shortness

3NT= doubt about 3NT
4C = Gerber

4red = Texas
July 8
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Yes, 6 seems indicated with such great clubs.

but, as Martin asked above why make a negative double?
1) you don't have 4 s which could easily result in disastrous continuations. (one of my pet peeves is negative doubles of 1 or 2 without having hearts)
2) Clearly bidding 2 is not really much of an overbid. (in comp a 2/1 only shows about 9-10…and with your pattern you won't be embarrassed by any follow-up by partner)
July 8
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Additionally this hand looks very suit oriented. With such good spades you would welcome a preference to 2 on a doubleton (and clearly wouldn't mind if partner passes 2 or offers up a red suit at the 2-level). Obviously you won't like it if partner rebids 2NT, but such is life.
July 7
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