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Thanks for repeating what was already written in the OP.
4 hours ago
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A question to the 3 bidders, what is responder supposed to do with 2 or less and no stopper?
4 hours ago
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Yes, in that sense 2 is actually more effective in obstructing the Precision bidding. If the M are reversed, after a 2 overcall and 3m, opener can bid 3 and if responder does not have support or stopper, she can bid 3.
4 hours ago
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So overcaller is willing to go -200 over their partial?
March 22
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Mike, my hand was much stronger than intermediate jump overcall. That was the whole point.

Double of 4? It means we are not making 4 and they made a mistake bidding 4.
March 22
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Mike, so in this case how do you know what the high card strength is?
March 22
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Is one of Uber and Lyft significantly better than the other in Memphis. I have to get to the airport real early this coming Sunday morning and want to make sure whatever I use is reliable. I don't mind using taxi, but sometimes taxis by phone may not be so reliable.
March 22
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I don't see the analogy. In your example, 4 may be furthering the preempt. If the 4 bidder intends to make and chooses not to bid 4 to bring partner into the picture, he will have to X to tell partner that the 4 bid was to make. I don't know what both show values mean, the 3 bid, while not forward going, still show something red vs. white. The less distribution, the more strength.

In the situation of my post, N heard partner made the 3 bid, and still bid 4. He must have a powerful hand, with ODR unclear. But since partner bid 3, if N has the hadn't with big ODR ratio, he will never defend 5. So P of 5 by him should indicate he bid 4 on a hand not just based on ODR, but also not so poor ODR that he wants to double now.
March 22
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It is not a question of space, it is a question of -200 is better than -420, while -200 is worse than -130. Putting in a faked bid of 4/ here just confuses partner as to whether you are asking him to evaluate his hand based on his / holding in case 5 is bid.
March 22
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OK. I was the guy who thought P was definitely forcing. Looks like I have to eat humble pie, but I still don't understand the logic. We are red and they are white. We bid game over a PARTIAL, not over a GAME. How can 4 bid not be an attempt to make. And if 4 is bid to make, how can P be NF?

This situation is entirely different from if they bid 4 and we bid 4 even if red vs. white. As Kit has repeatedly emphasized, 4 over 4 never sets up a forcing P. They bid game, 4 just says we think playing 4 even if X going down is better than letting them play 4.

FWIW, if partner has a singleton , we make 5. Since partner has doubleton, 5 is down 1, while 5 is down 2.
March 22
Mike Ma edited this comment March 22
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Daisy Jane by America.
March 21
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Director applies L'Hopital Rule for the ruling. :-)
March 20
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Does the X deny 3 hearts? In some partnership, X first followed by jump in shows 3 cad limit raise. Not that that hand would bid just 3 now (choice between 3 followed by 4 over 3NT, or 4 right away).
March 20
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“We don't use negative freebids, so the original neg double did not guarantee both minors.” Please explain.
March 20
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David, we are talking about playing at the 3 level.
March 19
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DB, sorry, it is All The Way FROM Memphis of course. PH, I have never heard the Brian May version before you mentioned it.
March 19
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All the Way to Memphis has to be #1 on the list.
March 19
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Barry, what you say is irrelevant even though I always say 0-7 rather than less than 7. If open 1 and when asked, I say less than 16, does that mean my lower limit may be 0? Opening a weak two with 0 systematically is considered unusual enough in ACBL in my opinion that I would not just say less than 9 or worse just say weak. Now maybe things are different in the Netherlands, and 0- 9 is much more common there.
March 19
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If W returns the K, you just run your , and overruff when she ruffs. You can come back to your hand with a (which says that the earlier plays were wrong).
March 18
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Here is where I don't understand. If it is tactically good to bid 2 this time, it is good to do it the next time. The hand is not so rare that it happens once in a blue moon. So after one has done it once, how can partner not know that is a possibility the next time? You can say partner is never allowed to assume you have that hand, but it is impossible for partner to get it out of his mind. Furthermore, opponents should know that this is a possibility even if partner is never allowed to act on this possibility.
March 18
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