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There are many ways to show support over a double if you are willing to use a little memory. Craig has shown one above and it was close to what I played soon after learning Cappelletti over one of a major double. I also agree with Craig that XX should deny 3 card or more support.

What I use with one partner is the following

1nt Natural about 6-9
2 normal single raise of the major
2 3 card limit raise or better
2 of major Weak 3 card raise
2NT 4 + card limit raise or better
3 of major Weak 4 card raise of major

I am sure others have different ways of showing support. The sequence is common enough and important enough that some system should be used.
July 5
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I think you need to better define what kind of trump support you need for a 2NT bid. If its 4 or 3 good ones, then this hand has a major problem bidding. The statement that a redouble implies no fit really is a poor definition if it is allowed with 3 card tump support
July 4
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Yes Western is stopper asking when one suit is bid by opponents. When two suits are bid (as implied here it is telling)
July 3
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In practice people dont follow the SAYC booklet which is the worst of 2/1 combined with was standard american at the time. In standard american of the 80's (and on okbridge and in clubs now) a 2/1 bid was only forcing to 2nt or 3 of the minor.

The biggest advantage of standard american is getting to a part score that 2/1 game forcing can't really get to. The big advantage of 2/1 game forcing is explore for slams and the right game.

Since most experts gear their systems to Imps not MPs it becomes obvious why 2/1 game forcing is so popular. Losing a few imps because of the wrong partial is nothing compared to the gain of getting to the slam or right game
July 2
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So for those that think 2 is natural, what is your bid with AQx xxx xxx KJxx and you are playing lebensohl and western cue bids and 3NT would deny a stopper in both major suits and 2NT followed by 3NT would show a stopper in both majors
July 2
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deleted my comment didn't see it was third seat
July 1
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yes partner must bid again
June 27
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Learning from seeing what very good players did is something I've always liked about on line bridge (from the early days of OKBridge). Sometimes overlooked is going over the hands where you did better than them, to see if maybe you were lucky and your play/bid was against the odds but worked in this case
June 27
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Hard to pick the right category. I like to play it “almost” game forcing in that a rebid of the diamond suit could be passed
June 27
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Guess I wasn't thinking when I posted my answer. sorry about that, I'll blame it on being in the house too long
June 25
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To answer that, I need to know what 2 is. If you always bid 2 with 5 diamonds then I would think it shows 4 hearts. If you would have bid 2 with 5 diamonds and 4 hearts, then it is forward going with a partial stopper in hearts
June 25
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one example would be to take your example and add a spade and take away the A of hearts but leave it as a 6223 hand
June 22
Nicholas France edited this comment June 22
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Of course opponents are allowed to know your agreements but if you pass with your 4432 and 13 points instead of redoubling it may go all pass when doubler has 3 hearts
June 22
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Henry, we will agree that a strong majority plays this as showing extras. I just believe more in the law of total tricks
June 22
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Henry you example is a little light as it has only 3 spades. Lets change it to

KJxx
AQxx
Qxx
xx

Which doesn't change your point much. Strange bidding by the opponents. No redouble so LHO has less than 9 points and RHO is passing with 18 points, very strange.

the point is the example is not realistic.
June 22
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I play it just shows 4 hearts so whatever strength you need to make a takeout double. It is not an invite for me. There have been many polls taken on this sequence. While the majority plays it shows extras, a good minority plays it as competitive. If open had rebid his suit, I think the majority would play it as not showing extras

this is a sequence where a poll would get a better idea of how big the majority is here.
June 21
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Bidding 1 shows your 9 cards in the black suits from my point of view. For those that point out what 2 does, I will point out it misses the 4-4 spade hand when partner is minimum.
June 18
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Very few if anyone plays SAYC the way it is played in the booklet.
June 14
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I voted other because it shows a balanced hand with 2 cards in the major. It never shows 1.
June 14
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thanks for the reference. The poll is to find out where the bridgewinners community stands and by what margins
June 9
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