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Dave - as a general rule you don't want the investigators to also be the prosecutors because there is a not-significant risk that they will over-reach wearing their second hat in order to justify the strength of the factual case they developed wearing their first hat.
Oct. 15, 2017
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Old Montreal superstition (I first heard this from the Koach,three decades ago) : if it's a pure guess lead clubs against slam, but lead hearts against clubs.
Oct. 12, 2017
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JoAnn - with respect, I think you have this backwards.

As I see it, the principal reason to receive recorder forms from clubs is to keep a record of unusual, successful actions taken by a given pair.

If a sufficiently large number of forms are submitted which establish a pattern of improper conduct on the part of a particular pair, the recorder may choose to recommend that charges be laid against that pair.

And the “form-submitters” do not feel frustrated by the absence of prompt action because they understand that the form is not being submitted for the purpose of obtaining an immediate result.

And if the pair that is the object of the form was immediately advised of same, many players would be reluctant to submit an individual form because they do not know if the bizarre action was simply that,or if there was malice aforethought.

The ‘form-submitters’ are comforted by the knowledge that their form will not serve as the basis of a complaint unless many other forms have been submitted indicating that the type of action which they found peculiar was symptomatic of a pattern of conduct,and was not simply a one-off.
Oct. 12, 2017
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Marty - in practice a substantial amount of the legislation is based on drafts written by teams of lawyers working for lobbyists.
Oct. 2, 2017
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Joann- just to be clear, I am not concerned about the weak, “social” pair that has been playing together for 95 years and routinely break tempo because they have been doing so since before the Great War.

The kind of pair I am concerned about is the experienced, competent pair, playing capable methods, and who are aware of their ethical obligations.

We are all familiar with this type of pair - they never get a competitive decision wrong because they “know” , via tempo, whether their partner was min or max for their overcall, double etc.

I recently swapped horror stories with another Unit Recorder on this issue- his bête noire was a pair that played a very simple version of FanTunes in club games as well as sectionals and regionals. They cheerfully relied on tempo to resolve the strength/length ambiguity inherent in the two-bids.
Sept. 30, 2017
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Joann -.I quite agree that the *isolated* fast return or break in tempo is not the same thing as collusion. And the last thing I'd want to receive is a barrage of player memos on that issue.

As you note, that type of annoying conduct is a “club” problem which is to be dealt with at the discretion of the club manager

My concern is a related but distinct problem, namely the *pair* that consistently engages in the same type of conduct but on an industrial level such that they are routinely and deliberately breaking tempo to illegally convey information.
Sept. 30, 2017
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Thanks Joann - but I think we are talking apples and oranges.

The statement I was not inclined to take at face value was your blanket assertion that “there is no recorder system for club games unless it is a Unit wide or sectionally rated game.”

The FAQ extracts you have cited clearly state that the recorder system *does* apply to club games, regardless of type, in the context of collusive cheating which is the very topic I have been writing about. In my view *partnerships* who routinely and deliberately take advantage of tempo to illegally convey information are engaged in collusive cheating.

And that is a problem that can only be resolved by player memos sent to the Recorder.
Sept. 30, 2017
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Joanne - Appendix C of the “RECORDER REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES” provides as follows:

“A Recorder should inform club managers, tournament chairpersons and tournament directors of the proper procedures for delivery of Player Memos to the Recorder.”

Can you please point to the regulation prohibiting the submission of player memos in respect of incidents that occur in club games.


Barry - unfortunately I do not recall ever having seen a player memo submitted in this type of circumstance, at the club level. Consequently,over the years, certain pairs (fortunately only a small handful) routinely transmit information via the tempo of their play, knowing full well what they are doing. I have seen a very limited number of memos submitted in respect of this type of conduct at the sectional and regional level.

The frustrating aspect is that I can recall numerous occasions on which pairs have verbally complained to me (yet again) about the tempo of a certain pair, but they won't take the time to file a player memo despite having been told that the problem will not go away by itself.

(edited to clarify the distinction between the submission of memos at clubs as opposed to sectionals/regionals)
Sept. 29, 2017
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Barry - education only works for that subset of offenders who are not aware of their ethical obligations.

Unfortunately, based on the many years I have spent as a Unit Recorder, my sense is that there is small subset of hard-core offenders who are aware of the rules, but just don't care: filing recorder forms is the only long-term method for dealing with these miscreants.
Sept. 29, 2017
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Bahar - congratulations on this very positive initiative. I have no doubt that BW members will provide you with invaluable input.

I also suspect that you will soon have a greater appreciation for Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia who was unable to ever satisfy certain publishers.

As Hizzoner once said "If I walked on water across the Hudson River, the next day's headline would be Mayor Can't Swim!”
Sept. 27, 2017
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Joe Gilliam.
Sept. 27, 2017
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Ken - kudos on your yeoman efforts having yielded fruit. You missed your calling as a forensic investigator. The world's money launderers would have blanched at the prospect of being subject to a “full Deighton”!
Sept. 18, 2017
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Alan - I'm guessing the filter had a problem with the terms “clinton” and “…moron”
Sept. 13, 2017
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A hurricane event might become the stuff of legend - WBF marketers looking to boost global awareness of the game need only persuade the World Meteorological Organization to change the current #2 on its 2018 list of names for the Carribean/Gulf of Mexico/North Atlantic hurricanes from “Beryl” to “Bridget”…..
Sept. 11, 2017
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The late-great Helen Sobel often partnered Goren. She was once asked by a kibitzer “what's it like playing with a great expert?”

Helen replied “I don't know. Why don't you ask Charlie.”
Aug. 30, 2017
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Ray - thanks for the new word (“Koan”)- I am looking forward to using this in a pleading.

Eugene et. al. - thanks for yet another indirect benefit courtesy of Bridgewinnners.
Aug. 28, 2017
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“And perhaps there was less discussion of the result than I'm used to.”

I suspect that this factor accounts for the great bulk of the difference.
Aug. 26, 2017
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Well done USA 2!

And kudos to the Rosenbergs, pere et fils, for their unique double header.
Aug. 26, 2017
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Not to take anything away from Allan's terrific achievement, but George also won gold in this event in 2002 in Montreal, in partnership with Bo Baran. Diane Holt and Joe Godefrin completed the team.
Aug. 25, 2017
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Mr. Gidwani - thank you for taking the time to provide direct and detailed feedback to the members of this site who participate in ACBL events.

I am confident that the great majority of the relevant members of Bridgewinners are delighted to have the opportunity to engage in constructive exchanges with ACBL management on a forward-going basis.
Aug. 22, 2017
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