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Lew Mathe already got fixed by someone else on Wikipedia. I think the same with Eric.

Christal/Rich/,Janice/Karen are all new, so if you want to create the correct page for them. They are all still alive (last time I checked) so should probably check with them on what the “official” name they want to be listed as. I'd prefer that we didn't put the initials in the name unless ambiguous within bridge (Larry Cohen). But that's the original source.

I have a script that can take a Wikpedia entry, e.g. Bob Hamman and convert it to a Wikipedia link, e.g. []. But it does not know about ambiguity, if there is a tool to do this on Wikipedia, let me know.

If you can fix the rest, that would be great. Not very good on the Wiki redirect stuff.
Oct. 17, 2014
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I fixed Jan Martel. Was doing it before I saw this post. There is another Jan Martel (deceased French sculptor) already on Wikipedia. If anyone deserves a Wikipedia entry, it's Jan so it is there now (and I updated my list above).

Yes, my program is dumb, it doesn't know pre-existing Wikipedia names. It's very time-consuming to dis-ambiguate (is that a word?) on Wikipedia. My program thinks that Larry Cohen, Larry N. Cohen, and Larry T. Cohen are 3 separate people. While ACBL still lists them that way, it's GIGO.

There's a limit to my hours on this project; for Bill Pollack, someone will need to go through and create a disambiguation page. Ron Rubin is the template I was using for disambiguation (though you can use Jan Martel now as well).
Oct. 17, 2014
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Wikipedia has strong rules on editing entries for living people as opposed to deceased people. For example, Bob Hamman, Meckwell, Zia all have Wikipedia entries. All that I have listed is their Bridge accomplishments, which is generally available information anyway. I agree that private information on them should not be listed.
Oct. 17, 2014
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>It is possible to have the directors on the floor talking to and controlling ACBLscore with their tablet or phone

Not really. ACBLscore is a monolithic, single-threaded, non-networked application with code that directly controls the screen and/or keyboard at times. The DB design does not allow for multiple writes from different source. Trying to make ACBLscore networked, or multi-threaded, or multi-user, or anything but Windows, is a lot of work. Refactoring this code, as you suggest, is a lot of work. The board's requirements were that anything new use a SQL database, which would have been a significant re-write of ACBLscore.
Oct. 17, 2014
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If someone wants to create a Wikipedia page for the Marcus Cup.
Oct. 17, 2014
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List of Wikipedia pages. Most of these are new pages, but not all. If you can add some information/source material on any of the following, please do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Wildavsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_Gordon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Weiss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Kempner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Siebert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Stauber
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnie_Fisher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_G._Robinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_S._Goldsmith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._Jay_Becker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Bramley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Fain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Chazen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Palmer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Ann_Kennedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjorn_Fallenius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Nail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Moss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Glubok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Sanders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_J._Solomon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Bjerkan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Martel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Willenken
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christal_Henner-Welland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Burger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Said
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Cheek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitz_(bridge)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Clerkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disa_Eythorsdottir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Fuller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Doub
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Manfield
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Wold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Kemp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O._Taylor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Jean_Hawes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Greco
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_R._Murray
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Moss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garey_Hayden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Cohler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Wolpert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaylor_Kasle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Freed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Hampson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rapee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Caravelli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Baze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harkavy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Lilie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Fishbein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Utegaard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemant_Lall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Weinstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_Stakgold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqui_Mitchell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janice_Seamon-Molson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Martel_(bridge) (yes, there is another Jan Martel!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Glick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Wolpert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Meyers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Krekorian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Mahaffey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Robison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JoAnna_Stansby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Morse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gerber_(bridge)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mohan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schermer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sutherlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Culbertson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Chambers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Radin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_McCallum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Rhodes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Mori
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hazen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Stansby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_L._Mathe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Berkowitz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Lauria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Bluhm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Deas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Brachman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Jacobus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Wagar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Molson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jane_Farell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Granovetter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merwyn_D._Maier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Schleifer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kamil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Seamon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Becker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lawrence_(bridge)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Passell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Smolen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Breed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrie_Elis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Gruver
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Nickell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Wittes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hodge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Swanson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Solomon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Sutherlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._Leventritt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._Pender
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Weichsel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra_Hamman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Feldesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renee_Mancuso
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoda_Walsh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Coren
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_DeMartino
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Freeman_(bridge)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_L._Frey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Jordan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Lipsitz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Andersen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Von_der_Porten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Meltzer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozanne_Pollack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Arnold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Ekeblad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Sherman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_R._Kehela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Stayman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymon_Deutsch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Quinn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Stearns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_H._Lazard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Silodor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Mogal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Garner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Landen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_Picus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_A._Lightner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_K._Sanders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Stone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldemar_von_Zedtwitz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Seamon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeke_Jabbour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Mahmood
Oct. 17, 2014
Nicolas Hammond edited this comment Oct. 21, 2014
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Update: Many thanks for everyone's help.

I posted over 100 biographies on Wikipedia over the last 2 days. My general criteria was 10+ NABC wins though I did post some that had fewer. There are ~129 players in that group. There are ~292 players with 5+ wins. These are approximate, there may be some players with different names/spellings.

I think I have most (all?) of the NABC events. I added the Goren/Mott-Smith/Herman trophy. I added ACBL Hall of Fame, King/Queen of Bridge as “Awards”. I added the WBF Open Pairs, Mixed Pairs, Bermuda Bowl. I manually created CSV files for all of these, then have software that can parse the data, merge them all together and create a Wiki page. It is certainly possible I made mistakes as lots of hand-editing of the data.

If there was an existing biography, I did not edit it, except for a couple of players.

Posting 100+ new entries on Wikipedia “flagged” me. Some biographies were set for “Speedy Deletion”. Lew Stansby was “speedy deleted”. Sam Stayman was another. Reason was "person … who is important or significant“ or ”no claim of importance“. It's created a little teacup storm at Wikipedia. Both were added back. The approximate 100+ new biographies do need a little work (another Wiki comment). In order for these to not be all ”deleted“, I request a little help from this broader crowd. Basically the more little edits anyone can make (you do not need to a registered Wikipedia user to edit a Wikipedia file) to these new files, the more likely the entire group of biographies I just posted will remain up as a group.

I'm going to post the list of players that I created a profile for, or edited an existing profile. If you know the player, or want to do a little research and update the Profile, here's what's needed.

1. I listed ”XYZ is a bridge player“. If they have died, needs changing to ”was“. Also update the template (edit the file to see the template) on the year that they were born and/or died. Template is at the end of the file. I did not do any research on the Encyclopedia of Bridge or any other web site. Adding this biographic information will help. I did not want to assume anyone was dead, though players winning tournaments in the 1930s probably are. If you add something that they died, please make sure that you source the material. Cut/paste the existing source citations with the Wiki file.

2. I have an ”Early Life" section for all players. This needs SOME information added to it. Writing 2BD was not good (flagged by Wikipedia). If you know anything about someone's early life, please add it. If you are editing the page, please write something, anything. But leave the Early Life in, just replace the 2BD with some wording.

3. Sourcing material. If you can find anything on the Internet about some of these players, please add and cite the material. For example, Seymon Deutsch was speedy-deleting by Wikipedia until someone pointed out there was a NY Times Obituary on him. Someone needs to add these types of references to the various entries.

4. Google them. See what comes up. Add some reference to something of value. The more references, the better.

5. If they have a Blue Ribbon entry, please edit this. The reference currently reads:

<ref>{{cite news
| title = Blue Ribbon Winners
| author =
| publisher = American Contract Bridge League
| url = http://www.acbl.org/nabc/2013/03/bulletins/db5.pdf
| page = 5
| date = 7
| accessdate = 2014-10-17 }}</ref>

The date field needs changing from

| date = 7

to

| date = 2013-12-03

My mistake when I created the file, but I would have to manually edit every entry to correct.

Someone asked me why I was doing this. No good reason. I did a couple of Wiki pages a few years ago, e.g. Richard Freeman because he was in my Unit. It made sense that someone co-ordinate all the information (wins/runners-up) in one place, and automatically generate that information instead of having to manually research it for each player. Maybe that's why there is so little on bridge players on Wikipedia - it is a lot of mindless research to get their accomplishments in one place. I had a little volunteer time this week, have been intending to do this project for the last 3 years, so finally did it.

If you want to add a page for someone who is not already listed, let me know. I have now biographies on 2,483 bridge players. Most are not worthy of Wikipedia entries.

I'm still looking for some volunteer help. Someone needs to (manually) merge the data for the players with multiple names - Edith/Kitty/Kerri etc. I have the page(s), will be happy to send them to someone to merge so that they can post on Wikipedia. It's a bit more work because you have to edit every reference to their various names on Wikipedia to point to the correct page. If you are interested, let me know, will get you the files. Certainly all 3 deserve to be on Wikipedia.

Also, some player's name are disambiguous, e.g. Charles Coon. He won 6 NABCs, runner up in Bermuda Bowl. There are already 2 Charles Coons on Wikipedia. To create a person with the same name is a little extra work with editing the links to their name. If you want to volunteer to do that, I can give you the Wikipedia entry for that player. I do not have a list of who they all are.

I'm probably done with this project for the moment. It did take a few hours. I may post the code on GitHub or somewhere similar so that others can use the same code/concepts. Very simply I have a variety of CSV files, some tools that read those CSV files, then write out a biography of everyone in the files. Currently that's over 2,000 people. It is easy for me to add new data sources, e.g. I don't have the Cavendish, or other WBF events. If someone wants to create that data, and send it to me, I can always add it. Long term, I may look at posting the results that I have so that someone can easily add/edit it to Wikipedia.

I do have someone trying to get me the WBF database from source (helpful friends in China). If I get that then I will manually edit the various pages.

Oct. 17, 2014
Nicolas Hammond edited this comment Oct. 17, 2014
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I currently have no WBF IDs. We do have a list of names. There may be some on the current Wikipedia pages. Am trying to find volunteers to do this other stuff, as I've already committed to doing step #2 listed above.
Oct. 16, 2014
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I don't have any WBF numbers (note it's not their WBF number we want, but their DB Id, I think they may be different. It's to use the Wikipedia tag (example below)
* {{WBFpeople|3778|Richard Freeman}}

I automatically add that line to the file, but need the mapping from name.

If we assume that we have no names, then may be easier to get them all, because this way we can double check the numbers that are already there.

The list of names that Alan posts is probably a good starting point.

I've just added code to do the ACBL Hall of Fame ID, which is somewhat similar. So as soon as you can get this done, I can add the code that will do the automatic addition of this information.

The more I can get into the first pass of someone's entry in Wikipedia, the more likely Wikipedia will not auto-delete the entry.

Thanks!!
Oct. 16, 2014
Nicolas Hammond edited this comment Oct. 16, 2014
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Help: Find the WBF entries for all of the players. This is a little time consuming. Alan has 284 players on the Wiki page.

I'm looking for an Excel spreadsheet (or CSV file) that has columns

Name|WBF ref #


Example: if you see Bob Hamman's Wiki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hamman
Go to the end under references, his WBF query URL is http://www.worldbridge.org/Repository/peopleforscrap/person.asp?qryid=3774

I need to get the last number, i.e. 3774, for each of the players, if they have a WBF number.

To do this, go to http://www.worldbridge.org/people-finder.aspx
Type in a player's name, e.g. Silodor. Click on Find Person. Hover over their name, the qryid number should show up. Silodor is 15523.

So the Excel spreadsheet would be


Sidney Silodor,15523
Bob Hamman,3774

etc.

Certainly time consuming, it someone wants to get the first 50 names on Alan's list, create the file, we can go from there.
Oct. 16, 2014
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Help: identify the various people with multiple names. I don't know them all. This work has happened already on this thread. Please add comments to the list. I also need to know what the person's last name, or the name that they should be listed as.

I will probably ask someone to create the Wikipedia entries for these people because it becomes a manual merge of the data I have. I can get you the individual data.

From above:

Kitty Cooper/Munson/Bethe
Edith Seligman/Kemp/Freilich (two entries as Freilich)
Jillian Blanchard
Dorothy Truscott
Kerri Sanborn
Oct. 16, 2014
Nicolas Hammond edited this comment Oct. 16, 2014
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Help: The Wikipedia entries for the Fishbein, Mott-Smith, Goren trophies need updating. They are about 3 years old. Should be about 15 minutes worth of work. Please update the reference page for these as well, i.e. find the last ACBL Bulletin where the list is published. I want to include this Honor in the script I use. All I need help with is someone to do the research, and publish it.
Oct. 16, 2014
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Update: Thank you everyone for your help with step #1. I have now done step #2. I can automatically create entries for Wikipedia. I have 269 names that have won 5 or more NABC titles, 2,387 players in total. I added some of the names last night (probably added about 30). Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Sanders

Please do NOT edit of any these recent Wikipedia entries. What is happening now is that the entries are being tagged, and I'm iteratively learning what is going to be needed to get these entries “approved”. Based on some of the auto-feedback, I am going to modify my script so that it adds external references. This will help them get “approved”. I'm also iteratively changing the links that I generate. I am going to re-run the script that generates these entries with these various improvements and plan on overwriting what is there. In other words, if you edit any page at the moment, it will get overwritten.

I also wrote a script that would take the winners for an event listed in Wikipedia, and automatically create links for all players that have 5+ wins. I'm running that script on the Winners list of NABC events as I find them.

I still need some help, the more information I can have that is in an Excel type format, the more I can automate everything. I'm going to post what I need help with on separate post so that someone can volunteer to get it done, email me (or post on Wikipedia like Alan has done), and we can cross if off the list.

After we get all that done, I will let everyone know, and you can then add the personal information for all of these players.
Oct. 16, 2014
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Looks like there are about 100 players that have won 5+ NABCs that do not have a Wikipedia entry. Henry got 3/6. Not bad. #5, #6 on the list do not have a Wikipedia entry.

Ideally I was looking for an Excel spreadsheet with something like

Year|Name|Event|1or2 (place)


Additionally, need a sheet

Event|URL

mapping an Event name to the location it can be found on the Internet (not a link to another Wikipedia page)

Also

Name|WBF #



Given something like this, I can write a program that can extract all the data and put it in the format of the Wikipedia “Bridge Achievements” section that most Bridge players have. There seems to be a ‘standard’ format for Bridge players' wikipedia.

I keep getting a server error when connecting to the ACBL site. If you can post (on Wiki) a spreadsheet with the columns above, I will create the various players entries.

We can then try and get some volunteers to “clean up” the entries, add additional references (e.g. someone needs to get their WBF numbers so we can create a ‘references’ section). Someone will also need to go through the various Wikipedia entries that have player names and change them to links. That's a little bit of work. If someone wants to write a script for that (any language), let me know. Basically take a raw Wiki page, run in through a script that converts names that do not have links to names with links for all players that we are creating entries for.

There is a time gap from creating a new page on Wikipedia, to it being automatically deleted if it does not have enough references to it.

Perhaps BW isn't the best discussion site for this.
Oct. 14, 2014
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No, we can deal with which players have entries after we get the spreadsheet done. Part of the work will be going through all current entries, making sure that there are references to all their NABC/WBF wins etc. Making sure all players have references to their WBF player number etc. etc. Basically a clean-up pass. More references we have to external data, for example references to the ACBL/WBF page where their win is listed, the more likely the entry will not be deleted by Wiki-bots. It just makes sense that this is done once for all bridge players rather than someone having to re-do the work for each player that gets added.

First step is to create a list of players that should be on Wikipedia. My current arbitrary cut-off is 5 NABC wins. That seems reasonable to pass Wikipedia scrutiny for unworthy postings. Still trying to find a volunteer that is willing to create the spreadsheet. It's a few hours of work, cut/paste from various web sites.
Oct. 14, 2014
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Probably. Someone just needs to co-ordinate it. Guess there are three parts to step 1. 1a: get the data for ACBL NABCs, 1b: get the data from WBF, 1c: Merge two parts. Once we have the list of players to add to Wikipedia, then providing a link to their WBF profile (if they have one) is part of the references step in creating a player's profile.

I did Dickie Freeman's entry 3 years ago (we were in the same Unit), and remember thinking that a lot of the work I was doing would be the same for all other players that did not have a profile yet. What I'm trying to do is find a volunteer to do steps 1a, 1b (I can do 1c).

If we cannot find someone, then I may do a couple of players manually, write-up how to do it, and see if we can find volunteers to write up other deserving players.
Oct. 14, 2014
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The WBF YouTube videos for this event seem to be at https://www.youtube.com/user/WBFOfficial
There are some videos from Sanya so if you want to see the weather/surroundings/interviews, check it out.

It's a little confusing because there was a prior WBF YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/WorldbridgeFed

If you are going to be playing behind screens in this or any other WBF event, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UMLCkWjiNY
“I doubt if that's very clear”, but these are the new WBF rules for the tray taking ~ 20 seconds each side of the screen.


Oct. 13, 2014
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Someone seems to have told someone at WBF. The PDF file was fixed around 9:56pm EST today. File now has correct header. Should be no problems going forward.
Oct. 13, 2014
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The reasons for the decision may be a little different given the circumstances.

Donna Compton, USA 2 NPC, filed a complaint during the finals. See http://playbetterbridge.com/GermanCheatingScandal.html for her side of the story, as well as the various dates and filings.

The match was held on Saturday, September 28, 2013 and Sunday, September 29, 2013 in Bali.

A request for a monitor was requested by Donna for the Saturday match, the code was broken on Saturday, and a video was in place for Sunday's events. USA 2 filed a timely appeal. The WBF asked USA 2 to finish the match, and they would investigate.

Particularly see http://playbetterbridge.com/files/Formal_Complaint_by_USA_II.pdf

The Germans “won” the finals. They were awarded the gold medals. The USA 2 had to stand on stage next to Germany wearing their gold medals while the German national anthem was played. I happened to be there. That moment can never be re-created. I remember it well. I “re-started” playing bridge the same year Carolyn did and have followed her career since. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaQRqDYHOiE for the WBF video of the presentation of the d'Orsi medals. Take a look at the German Doctors facial expression as they walked on to the stage (compare it with their teammates), same with the USA 2 team. It's in the first 40 seconds.

The USA 2 was asked to keep quiet. More research was done at the Cavendish in Monaco in October 2013. Bertrand Gignoux provided a report from that event which also confirmed the code. It is sad that the delay took so long, and also that it affected subsequent tournaments, but due process is important also. No-one wants to be falsely accused.

I wish I had the WBF URLs, but here is a copy of the report from Dallas, March 2013 WBF meetings. See http://www.ecosoft.hu/bridge/Hearing21-22March2014.pdf or http://playbetterbridge.com/files/Hearing21-22March2014.pdf, same information.

If you want to be your own judge/jury, take a look at the video from the finals. The URLs are on Donna's web site at http://playbetterbridge.com/GermanCheatingScandal.html.
Take a look at clips 1-3, ignore 4, 5. I watched 1-3 some time ago, along with a copy of the WBF hand records. At some point, someone ought to publish a list of the coughs, who made them, the timing of the coughs with relation to the hand, the point the cough was made during the bidding. Clip 1 is 1:17:49, clip 2 is 53:06, clip 3 is 19:04. You have about 2.5 hours of video to watch. You can make your own decision. After a few boards, it became funny to predict when the cough, and the number of coughs, was going to happen. You can usually guess within a few seconds. The code regarding the “swiping of the table” before the “curtain” was dropped is also interesting. Watch the video(s). The Germans have a report, http://www.playbetterbridge.com/files/Independent_German_Committee_Findings.pdf, but it is difficult to read. The German report does have some of the timing information, but not detailed enough. If someone wants to create a simple Excel file with coughs/timings this would be helpful (Serge?). The swiping, not in Eddie's original notes, but reported elsewhere is also important. A specific time when something occurred would help anyone who doubts the evidence.

As USA 2 had formally complained during the event, and the decision that some of the German team had cheated, it is only correct that the German's gold medal was taken away. Many have pointed out that the Doctors may have cheated before, but it was only proven during the finals.

Other cheating incidents have different scenarios. In this one, Donna filed a complaint during the match, it was validated, the Germans were disqualified, USA 2 won. It is only correct that USA 2 wins the Gold Medal. One feels sorry for any other teams that may have been cheated upon, but without video it is difficult to prove.

I listened to an ACBL pro in Gatlinburg 2014 who claimed they were cheated out of various first place by previous cheaters and the impact they have had on his life (both losing out $$ in money events and also prestigious national/world titles). Cheating affects lots of people.

Someone needs to update Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Bowl_(bridge)
Anyone can do that. It's not been updated since April 2014. I've got some other Wikipedia stuff I'd like to see done. Will post separately later this week. If you are a regular Wiki contributor, please update Wikipedia, with appropriate references (don't all do it, easier if someone who normally posts Bridge related stuff can do it so approval process is quicker - P64, newwhist are you out there?). Wikipedia needs someone to add the winners/details from 2013, as well as details from the event (still at 2011). I'd also suggest that whoever does it create a separate Wikipedia page just on the scandal from Bali 2013 along with all the appropriate references. Given the media attention, it is worthy of its own page, but whoever writes it needs to be prepared to do the proper research along with the various documents that need to be referenced. This is NOT something that WBF should be doing. WBF can post something on their web site. Wikipedia is different.

If someone in Sanya can ask WBF to provide the appropriate edits to the YouTube video. I think the video should not be removed, but have a banner added that there has been a subsequent correction. As well as WBF adding official comments to the video.

I realize that this may take time (video editing is WBF, Wikipedia is “us”), but needs to happen at some point.

Due process is very important. WBF have done the right thing. It is sad it has taken so long. Donna/Carolyn + team will never hear their national anthem for their award ceremony. Congratulations to them for following the WBF request to stay silent, to suffer through the awards ceremony knowing what happened, to wait, patiently and quietly during the appeals process. At some point WBF ought to edit their video, with a written statement of what has happened since. Somewhere Carolyn + team ought to have their own award ceremony. The same goes for the new 2nd/3rd place finishers.

World/Word/Wold Championships, ignore the puns; as well as their deserved win they should also be commended on how well the entire team has handled themselves both during and since the event. Congratulations to Carolyn + team on both the win and have well they have conducted themselves since Bali.


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Reason you can't access the Bul_04.pdf file….

Getting really geeky. The reason that the Bul_04.pdf does not download to your page is that has an invalid PDF header. The other Bul*.pdf have correct headers. This is something that needs to be fixed at WBF. If anyone is on site at Sanya, please pass on this message….

The header for Bul_03.pdf is a correct PDF file that starts

$ head Bul_03.pdf
%PDF-1.4
%????
1 0 obj
<<
/FunctionType 2
/Domain
/C1
/C0
/N 1
>>

The header for Bul_04.pdf is NOT a correct PDF file. It starts

$ head Bul_04.pdf
bj
120 0 obj
<<
/FirstChar 32
/Encoding 117 0 R
/Subtype/Type1
/Type/Font
/Widths
/LastChar 84


The first line should not be ‘bj’ it should be a PDF marker.

If you download the raw Bul_04.pdf file, edit the header, save it, it will then come up in a PDF reader (am looking at it now).

If I can get copyright clearance from someone at WBF, I can upload somewhere…



What this means is: until WBF re-creates the PDF file, you will not be able to display the file as a PDF image from their web site. If you have the tools yourself:

1. Download the Bul_04.pdf file as a data file. I used wget.
2. Download the Bul_03.pdf file as a data file.
3. Edit Bul_04.pdf (it is editable), change the first few lines at the top to match the Bul_03.pdf file.
4. Save Bul_04.pdf
5. Open Bul_04.pdf




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