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June 15
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So John, you think that some of the 3 way finals were so lopsided that the directors thought, “shhhh, we are scoring this in VPs, but don't tell the players because they think the format is IMPs, so we will just post the IMP scores since it doesn't matter anyway”.
June 15
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D22's CofC were not changed after the fact.

They just werent followed in prior years.
June 14
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Hi John. Folks tend to be more civil than that ‘round here. There are ways to express your opinion without name calling.

The only advantage you’ll have is that Eugene lives on the left coast so he might not see this for a few hours. I'm sure if you disagree and continue you'll earn yourself a time out as well.
June 14
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Mike C my comment was really addressed to Michael K.
June 13
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Mike, you don't have any reason to believe me but I'm telling you that you are wrong. We didnt ‘assume’anything about the conditions, it was scored as IMPs.

2016 was scored in IMPs and not converted to VPs. I might even have a copy of my scoresheet (won't prove anything unless it has the IMP totals from everybody - but it might).

I think Anant was your mentee at the time. Ask him.
June 13
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We play:

1. Doesn't create any force.
2. Penalty
3. I wouldnt pass 2. Id bid 2.
June 12
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It makes for a great trivia question.
June 11
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Felix, Im sure you meant lift, but life sounds a lot better.
June 11
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All of this underscore the absurdity of using VPs to score the GNT.

Why should I have to press for a larger win against a team that I am beating just because they are crushing the other team?

What if the 3rd team feels like they want to withdraw and go home - who is going to make them play? If they do, then I cannot maximize my VPs for the final half or quarter which I might need to do to overcome Team 2's advantage.

I really wish (hope) John K. is reading this. He and Susan are good friends, but I think the decision to use VPs for three teams is flat out terrible.
June 10
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Sorry Dawn, that was a terrible typo by me. I hope I didn't convey any message in the process.
June 10
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David there are counter examples in golf too.

1. Augusta, GA - a burg that couldnt host an NABC is a permanent site for the Masters.

2. British Opens (er, The Open) traditionally were played within a much smaller geography than where NABCs could be played.
June 10
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Now don't be dissin' us Martians Chip. We invented the continuous scale - Henry Bethe was an honorary member of our clan.
June 9
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In 2015 We lost in a head to head match on Sunday. It wasnt a 3 way.

I remember many hands fron Sunday, especially one from the 4th quarter where Aaron and I got to an 85% grand that failed. Our counterparts stopped in 6 because one of them didnt know the responses to RKC with 5.

I dont remember if Saturday had 5, 6 or 7 teams nor any other detail.
June 9
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Mike is right. Marty and Craig - maybe you need to play around seedy players more often.

Default agreement is 3 is forcing. If one picks up a 20 count with six clubs, 3 is an effortless call.

void Axx Qxxx AQJxxx takes a little more time to leave the bidding box.
June 8
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Yes, our youngest went to Chico and we spent many long weekends in Tahoe City. One of my best friends lives in Carson, so i've spent some time there too.

If you can get aware from some of the urban core, I agree it's a nice place.
June 8
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Well, based on the popularity of the venue, clearly my viewpoint is out of touch.

FWIW, I have attended the last three Reno's.
June 8
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Dawn, please add the option of:

C. Some combination of the above
D. Other

These should not be either-or choices.

I have always supported this idea, although maybe not to an extreme of the same cities over and over.

I believe NABC's follow an A, B and C rotation. Vegas is clearly an A - lots of reasonable hotels*, flights and entertainment, so it gets one every five years. Perhaps on a pilot basis, make Vegas a bi-annual location. B locations are less frequent (8-10?) and C are maybe 12-15 years? Someone can quote the exact numbers I am sure.

Reno gets great numbers too - I cannot fathom why because the area is kind of depressing, especially in March. But people vote with their feet.

San Diego is always top rate (except one stint in the 90's). The volunteers do a tremendous job.

There are still interesting cities that do reasonably well with turnout, and are fun to see once in awhile. Put Phoenix, Denver, Kansas City, etc.. on that list.

The league is in a fragile state. Our new ED is balancing the budget on the players. Maybe it's necessary, but dammit, stop making six and seven figure oopses. So no ‘experimental’ sites or junkets for the BOD please.

Hawaii? Winnipeg? Minneapolis? Birmingham? Norfolk? Fresno? NEVER AGAIN.

* Perhaps not anymore.

edited typo
June 8
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By the way, here's a neat little tool if you want to do research about old websites:

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June 8
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Mike:

the three team final in 2014 ran under different conditions. On day 1 it was supposed to be 2v5, 3v4, and 1v4v7 RR on day 1. I don't know how it was conducted.

In 2014, I played with Joe Kivel, Chris Larsen and Wafik Abdou. We beat Finn's dad, Peter Rank, John Strauch and Mike Crawford head to head.

I do not remember what the format was on Saturday - maybe six teams in two round robins + one survivor.

Oh wait, there's that term again. And it was scored in IMPS.
June 8
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