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I agree that this auction is easier with XYZ, but this partner doesn't play it.
June 1, 2014
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Quite right: “Extended PLOB,” July 1978 TBW, though Swanson gives Moyse's comment as “odious, meaningless, petty little bid.”
May 29, 2014
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“5?: Heart queen and spade queen. If responder would respond with 6?, it would show the heart queen and the club king but would deny the spade queen.”

0 queens = 5?
Q, no Q, no side Ks = 5? 5NT?
Q, no Q, side K = 5? 5NT?

5 = signoff, I assume, so 5N asks for clarification of the 5 calls?

Do you show keys with voids? What Q holdings do the 2/5 key responses show (0,1,2)?

Every form of this I've seen, except possibly the ‘low-Q = K’ version, above, requires either assumptions about what minimal Q holding asker and/or teller will have or clarification asks that get above 5N, making K-asks difficult.
May 29, 2014
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Sure–but I, personally, am here to learn, and would like to enjoy the benefits of free cheese.
May 28, 2014
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Al Moyse.
May 28, 2014
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Do you mean “another suit” than the one agreed as trump? Examples?

Care to describe your response structure?
May 28, 2014
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Clarification: We play three two-suited calls over 1SNT, two show 5+-5+ and one is 5-4-3-1. We want 6-key for these auctions and are waffling on explicit two-suit agreement auctions like 1S-2H/2S-3H and 1D-2C/3C-3D
May 28, 2014
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I see notable players in the “abstain” category. I'd like to know why the abstainers have no opinion: question framed poorly? think 4thSGF is bad (though same problems exist, I think, with 4thSF1)?

Frances: In this partnership, we have to rebid 1S even with weak NT-type hands. Not my choice, but nevertheless….
May 28, 2014
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As implied above, I have no problem with the concept of a best lie…I just wonder why partner, with a stopper, doesn't want to bid it. Seems to create a bevy of possible pitfalls.
May 27, 2014
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Agree that both types of holdings are positional, but maybe for clarity “positional” should refer to the holding that wants the lead coming up to it, not through it.
May 27, 2014
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Does the “anything else” have a natural meaning, or does 2N claim – more hari-kari – a “positional” rather than a true stopper? If 3C is the CA: After the 4thSGF call, what do you call, as opener, with KJxx=xx=AQxx=Axx?

I'm in the camp that would call 2N and expect 3C to show the H short 4x1s and 4-4-5s; this partner, and apparently Benoit, would not.
May 27, 2014
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So, realizing I have created terminological hari-kari by referring to something like Ax as “positional,” when usually folks refer to the Qx or QTx holding as “positional” –

It seems that you would call 3C as opener holding KJxx=xx=AQxx=Axx? and if partner holds 2=5=3=xxx, s/he must call 3H or 3D? but with 2=5=3=Qxx or 3=5=3=Qx, s/he will call 3N?

And then if you hold AJxx=Kx=AQxx=xxx, you will also call 3C?
May 27, 2014
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True, but how do you see the odds?

Assuming 20-21 2N, they have 15 HCP, and, if RHO is reasonably sane, s/he has 8 in . There is some possibility RHO has only 6 . There is some possibility that partner has 9-10 HCP in one 5-cd suit, in which RHO has shortness – I hope partner recognizes this for what is best (play our own 3X? tap RHO and take control?).

You pays your money….Want to play 3X vs. even 300 for 3X-2? Want to let them play 3C? What is the risk of -470? What contract do you think is best? 3N-1 or -3 if RHO holds AKJTxx(x) and a crucial A? I'm just saying: I'll bet it _is_ our hand.

Roger, what was the layout?
April 24, 2014
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I want responder to have a penX option, or a pass-forcing-double option with direct negX (better). At these colors, it's a simple calculation, one that can be made by both partners: I want to play 3CX for 500+ (aggressive) since at absolute best we will make 490 and dummy will likely have no C. In other vulnerability situations, bidding might be best.
April 24, 2014
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Alvin, I was boosting 1-(1)-X-(XX)//2-(P)-P-(2)*//2. I say “5-5.5” b/c KQxx depends upon the location of the A.

*, as some have said, = cagey. The 3 call in other auctions on this deal clarifies a bit.
March 31, 2014
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If N-S are willing to stop in 1N with 24 HCP, what you gonna do? Sounds to me like someone is swinging the board, sandbagging into a predictable balance by E-W.
March 28, 2014
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N holds a weakish, distributional, 5-5 1/2 loser hand. Partner's call makes it much better. Even though there is some worry that partner holds a min negX with wasted values in and short , N is now worth 2, especially in a structure where reverses are 1RF. Now, after 2, 2 is both cheap and very descriptive.
March 26, 2014
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Excellent point, acknowledged below. I was fresh from missing the slam….
Feb. 10, 2014
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I notice that I used “strongish” in the poll verbiage, which is really not relevant to the question, but happened really to matter on this layout: my hand was KQx ATxx KTxx Jx.
Feb. 10, 2014
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Nicholas: These were the priorities I have always assumed, though 2 & 3 might be reversed: 4=1=5=KQx; I agree w/ Tom, I prefer not to rebid 1S with balanced hands.
Feb. 9, 2014
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