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Well, as has been quoted elsewhere in the thread, according to the actual ACBL regulation, he did not meet the requirement to have his master points resinstated. If he were to renew for three years, he would.
an hour ago
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No, obviously not (I never said I thought Paul L's response was one I approved of if that's what you're implying) . . .
14 hours ago
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Yes, I understand that the economics are such that it is frequently in a business's best interest to do this, but I still think it's shameful (and I respect businesses that attempt to satisfy a customer, but still stand up for themselves and their employees when confronted with an unreasonable customer).
Dec. 11
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So what if it's actually the case that the ACBL clearly explained their policy to Amir and he just misunderstood? Should they just give him what he wants after he attacks the organization and calls their employees liars in a public forum? I certainly would not want to work for an organization that treated me like that (to clarify I mean I'd be upset if someone attacked my work in a public forum and my employer's response was to roll over and give them what they want)!
Dec. 11
Shawn Drenning edited this comment Dec. 11
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Melanie: Maybe because he NEVER mentions the cost being a barrier (either to him personally or hypothetically) in the myriad posts he has made on the topic I (and I assume other) assumed that had nothing to do with his failure to take the ACBL up on their offer.
Dec. 11
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If you care so much and plan on continuing to be an ACBL member, then why don't you just pay for the three year membership (that you would be paying for anyway) now and get your points? If you are really done with the ACBL for good, then why do you care about the missing masterpoints?
Dec. 11
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This *does* seem like it was (or could have been) a misunderstanding. I think you undermine your credibility when you loudly accuse someone of lying (with no evidence) when there is a reasonable alternative explanation. Even if this is the ACBL's fault for communicating poorly, it does not mean they are “bold faced liars.”

I think that as long as the ACBL continues using masterpoints as a stand in for skill level for the purposes of bracketing etc. they *should* give people their masterpoints in situations like this. I'm less sure whether they should if they have a clearly worded regulation that says they should not in this situation even if there was a misunderstanding. I definitely do not think they should after you make a public display of accusing them of being liars etc. Even though the “customer is always right”, I'm loathe to see the customer get anything when they denigrate the business . . .
Dec. 11
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If the comment would have been made respectfully, I might agree, but the way it was phrased was insulting to Fu/Li
Dec. 6
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All good points, Richard. I was trying to get an idea if the objection was ACBL specific or just resistance to doing things in a new way. I know it took a lot to convince my mother to stop sending checks in the mail (which at least to me seems like one of the least secure ways of sending money to someone) . . .

Without knowing many details, this “Live for Clubs” initiative seems like a good one, so I'm hoping any concerns are assuaged (and if people view this project negatively, I'd be curious to hear why).
Dec. 3
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Would you using something like Venmo/Paypal etc. each month to pay the ACBL? How is payment currently being done that is more secure? Is the issue that you specifically do not trust the ACBL with your information or do you not leave your credit card on file with anyone (for instance, I have payment information of some form on file with probably 25-50 or more merchants/service providers, so likely would not be bothered to give mine to the ACBL)?
Dec. 3
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“I should perhaps have bid 6♣ but 6NT worked out well.”

You missed a really good 7 so worked out well seems like an overbid (not saying I would get to 7C at table).

Is natural the best use of 4NT after partner cooperates with a slam try (even with your methods, is it a wise bid?)?
Dec. 1
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The randomness is part of what makes it fun!
Nov. 27
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I really enjoyed listening to this.

I was curious about the Mars Rover promotion and found this about it on snopes (I didn't doubt the story, that's just what came up): https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/shrimp-ahoy/

I had seen the famous Helgemo hand where he plays AK64 opposite 972 for three tricks and get why the play is necessary, but how did he figure out to play for this rather than 33 spades? Was there information from the bidding? Did the defender cover the spade 9 on the second round?
Nov. 24
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Sure, I can play in open pairs and go to NABCs. A/X Swiss is relatively uncommon though (but I can ask players with more points to play).

So yes, overall I can play enough “good” bridge to keep me coming back, but why should it be so difficult? The ACBL purports to want to attract younger players to the game. Even if it is successful though, if some people's attitude (not to pick too much on Sabrina) is that even if they get good, until they've spent enough time and money to “earn” it, the ACBL will make it hard for them to play against their peers, how many players will be lost because of this?

I prefer playing teams to pairs. Why should the status quo be that I either crush a low bracket or beg to be in a high bracket (and depending on teammates/the field etc. be overmatched)? Why not try to make it easier for players to play against other players of approximately the same skill? I think if a rating system could achieve this it would make everyone happier.

Fortunately for me I'm starting to accumulate enough points where this is becoming less of a problem, but I think it is essential that the ACBL solve this problem if it is serious about attracting younger players (and I imagine this could be an issue for newer, but talented/serious older players too)
Nov. 18
Shawn Drenning edited this comment Nov. 18
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“but are unable or unwilling to put their butts in the seat to earn the MP necessary to guarantee a top bracket position.”

It's expensive and time-consuming to grind out this many master points. I play what I would consider a lot of bridge (for someone who works full-time) and I have only accumulated (not counting online points) roughly 300 points this year. At that rate, I would have to play for 15-20 years (or longer) to be eligible for one of the higher brackets at most regionals (assuming I found teammates with the same number of masterpoints). Why should I have to wait that long?

I play a fair amount of “bad” club bridge because I enjoy the game (and the social aspect), but even that I'm starting to get frustrated with and considering scaling back. I'm definitely not interested in spending my time and money to travel to tournaments to play low-level bridge and that has nothing to do with my ego. There are other hobbies I enjoy and if the ACBL does not want to try accommodate me I'll do something else with my time.
Nov. 17
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That makes sense. My point was that it seems common to go through a forcing NT to make a three card limit raise and it has never made sense to me how a hand with shortness (and here a decent five card side suit!) can make the same raise as a balance hand with the same (or slightly more) HCP. Maybe I should have asked how you would bid with A107 J873 AJ62 Q6 (to take you out of your simple raise range)?
Nov. 14
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What would you bid with (say) AT7 J873 A652 Qx (playing light openers) out of curiosity?
Nov. 13
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The demographics for regionals are probably a little different than for NABCs, but my experience has been that when regionals have pairs events where there are three sessions and you can pick which two to play in that the night attendance is a fraction of the attendance for the other sessions. If there is a strong demand for all the start times, the ACBL could try running some NABC events like this (and if some sessions had higher attendance than others that would be better evidence of what people actually prefer than then anecdotal evidence in threads like this)
Nov. 12
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This is why I've become such good friends with GIB. I wish my local live club would let me partner with him.
Nov. 11
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“People who work also find 10 and 3 more costly (many manage 1/2 day vacations for 1 and 7:30)”

Personally I would find working a half day and then playing bridge until 11:00 or later to be really grueling, but I suppose this works for some.

As someone who works (and is usually in the office by 7:30 or so) I already find a 10:00am start to be plenty late and I've never understood objections that this is too early (but I know others disagree)

While I would prefer a earlier start anyway, another factor for me is that a 7:30 PM start time is incompatible with getting a nice dinner with my non-bridge playing wife, which means she (and a result me since I have limited vacation) is much less likely to attend a tournament with a 1/7:30 start.
Nov. 11
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