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Barry Margolin
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June 28, 2010
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2nd place 2000 GNT Flight C, 2nd Place 2018 MIni Blue Ribbon Pairs
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MIT/DL
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barmar
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Diamond Life Master
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What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
@Roger The basic problem is that the UI Laws are designed to NOT require reading the player's mind or getting them to explain their reasoning (which answer is likely to be self-serving, and also such introspection is not necessarily accurate). That's why Law 16 is written in terms ...
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
Yet the fact remains that no one has carefully edited the language to conform to that spirit consistently. And we're now talking about a completely different document, which is just guidelines.
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
The Laws are full of language like that, such as "infraction" and "offending side". What phrase would you use instead of "found guilty"? I guess it could say "found to have transmitted UI". But it all amounts to the same thing, I think you're reading too much into it.
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
I think you're making this way more complicated than it really is. If the appeal committee reverses the ruling, it just means that the TD made a mistake when he determined that the call was illegal. But as you say, this is also a very fuzzy process. There's ...
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
My analogy wasn't related to screens, but just about the general problem of violating Law 16 without knowing it, because you don't know what would be considered LAs.
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
I think what people find confusing or disturbing about this is that there's no objective criteria for whether the call is legal, and there's no way for them to know for sure whether they're violating Law 16. To continue Steve's analogy, it's as if we ...
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
That may be a poor analogy. Some violations require intent -- I think it's part of the distinction between murder and manslaughter (disclaimer: IANAL). And intent requires knowing that something is wrong. And in your analogy, suppose someone stole the speed limit sign, so you couldn't know. Even if ...
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
In the past, I've people have said that if you can make plausible arguments that either LA is suggested over the other, it doesn't meet the "demonstrably suggested" criteria for any one of them. One of the arguments needs to be significantly more persuasive than the other.
What are your rights and obligations when you don't know who hessitated at the other side?
@Ian That's why I generally say that Law 16 is for the TD after the fact, while Law 73 is for the player at the time. In general, it's not possible for players to know what the LAs are, since it's based on what OTHER players might ...
A Psych Story
Hence my qualifier "someone who isn't so conservative". The point is that they're doing something different from their usual, because they figured out that you psyched in some way that the opponents couldn't.
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