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“so why shouldn't they play?”

because they surely cheated during qualification stage.

Is that enough eloquent for you ?
Sept. 22, 2015
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The atmosphere should have been interesting last week-end at Saint-Cloud :-)

Anyway, they could still play the DN1 4-handed if I understand well…
Sept. 22, 2015
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FWIW, I've raised in short quite the same questions on the FFB forum. My question was:

After the recent discoveries, will Fantunes be part of the Interclubs final ?

The official answer from FFB dated 14th September states that:

“La Fédération Française de Bridge respecte le principe de la présomption d'innocence et n'a en conséquence aucun commentaire à formuler sur ce sujet pour le moment.”

which could be roughly translated by:

“The French Bridge Federation respects presumtion of innocence principle and therefore has no comment on the subject for the moment.”

If I understand well, F-N could even have played the Interclubs final….

Edit: typo
Sept. 22, 2015
Franck Guerrero edited this comment Sept. 22, 2015
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Roy,

Thanks for your answer.
Actually, I read that 2nd paragraph (quoted here below)and I am not questioning your honesty.

“We were aware that there were some suspicions about them, but we felt secure after much evaluation of our overall success, that our results as a team and specifically those from our teammates, were not inconsistent with their abilities as bridge players, and if anything were even a little disappointing.”

That answers the “unaware” part of my questions (sorry I've missed it) but not really the “giving” credit part.

I'm surely naive however, if many (most ?) of my esteemed and trustworthy peers told me that the pair X/X was cheating and/or being very unethical, I would surely chose to not play with this pair.

Anyway, I wish you the best for the future events.
Sept. 21, 2015
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According to what has been published during the last month on BW, it seems that :

1) there were huge whispers on the 3 caught pairs,

2) all top-level players knew of these whispers about FN/FS/PS since many years,

3) all teammates of the 3 pairs are top-level players

but

4) all teammates of the 3 pairs were not aware that they were cheating

This just raises some, I think, legitimate interrogations like:
- why the teammates did not give any credits to the whispers ?
- why only those top-level teammates were unaware of the whispers ?
Sept. 21, 2015
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when the first time offense lasts since 10 years or more, I am not sure…
perhaps, first time getting caught would be a fairer sentence
Sept. 19, 2015
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What you saw last week on BBO was planned since a year, and that was trials for 2016/2017 french open team
Sept. 19, 2015
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“Only difference is that she isnt out trying to save an obvious cheater from prosecution?”

still sure of that once germany has withdrawed from BB ?
Sept. 19, 2015
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Boye and Roy,

do you really need that public struggle ?

Perhaps, you could settle that between the two of you without involving the BW community, please ?
Sept. 18, 2015
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Cornelia wrote:

“There is, however, one culture issue that still remains a problem. There are some parts of the world where the overall prevailing culture has different values, where trickery, cunning, deception, and clever deceit are more highly valued in the society than are honesty, integrity and sportsmanship.”

True, when one dominant culture has fathered the balco scandal, lance armstrong, floyd landis, tyson gay, enron scandal, bernard madoff, the subprime mortgage crisis and so on, one should hope that other cultures value highly honesty, integrity and sportsmanship.

Sept. 18, 2015
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I know but I just don't buy the “they only cheated one board and the rest was never proven” argument.

and therefore, I don't see no real difference with the 2 recent cases but anyway, this is none of my business…
Sept. 16, 2015
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so he should be clean ? if you say so…
Sept. 16, 2015
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This year DN1 could be funny with, for the moment, FN still in Zimmerman team and in guest-star Lanzarotti in Zaleski team…
Sept. 16, 2015
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The same contrast with JCA comment on “Israel - do the right thing !” (http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/israel-do-the-right-thing/?cj=221534#c221534)


“Dear Les, I've rarely read such a strong post here… I hope you'll be heard by the IBF.. A great great bravo!!!”

Let's just hope FMB is not deaf, either…
Sept. 16, 2015
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Andrew,
“I think further investigation of F/N is called for to answer that question.”

Why further investigation ?
If there is already enough evidence (and it really seems that is indeed the case), then take appropriate actions.

i.e., if one cheats ==> life ban, period.

There is no need to prove that one can:
- signal opening leads, or switches
- signal suit length
- signal suit strength
- signal whatever you can imagine that is illegal

Proving only one of the above illegal signalling method should be enough for proving cheating.
Sept. 15, 2015
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“ Seems like we need to eliminate all possible positioning, noises, pens, shirts, tables, etc. at least at the top level.”

Above all, we need to eliminate shirts from women events ?

OK, I go out, sorry…
Sept. 14, 2015
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“ in many (most?) Olympic events, many countries send up to 3 participants”

Josh,
Yes for individual sports(judo, athletics, etc..), no for collective ones (i.e. basketball, soccer, volley and so on).

And it is not a matter of performing well or not, I suppose that if USA could send 2 basketball teams to olympics, they would surely finis 1st and 2nd at each olympics.
Sept. 7, 2015
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“England, Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland. ”

Each have separate national governing bodies for sports and compete separately in many international sporting competitions. And I don't think that status can be compared to the USA having 2 teams.

But, if that pleases you, OK, they should also compete under one UK team as in the Olympics games.

Sept. 7, 2015
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“I might, once you explain to me why it's totally wrong. :-)”

Do you know any other sport/game world championship allowing 2 teams from the same country in final stage ?
Sept. 7, 2015
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champion's league is not a world nation championship, this is an european club tournament.

Another question ?
Sept. 6, 2015
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