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I don't see that.
Either 3 is game forcing or not. It is up to responder to decide based on the answers he/she receives. Responder has chosen to forgo bidding 2N and shown a 2 suiter instead.

1) He/she wants to know which suit is preferred
2) How good is the fit
3) passed hand: If 3 is not game-forcing - is opener in the
upper or lower end of the range.
unpassed hand: what are the prospects for slam - unassigned
bids should be interpreted as cue bids.


Let's look at the biding options:


Note: (p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3/4/4
show :6+ and are auto-splinters, so we will ignore those.

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(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-?
Note: responder must be invitational or better

Accept Game invitation in Hearts
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What bid shows a good heart fit and max
-> the super accept after (p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-?
There are a number of other bids here that fall under
your super-accept structure that could show 3
and some ruffing shortness or some other feature.
They may or may not apply in passed hand settings.


What bid shows a good heart fit :4
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3
(no point cuebidding here)

[I really don't see the value of showing the converse -
genuine spade suit :4 no stoppers
no and fit. Something like AKQx QJ xxxx Kxx
looking for 3N]

:4 :2 ???
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-4
The problem with this bid is opener doesn't know
if a suit | that has no wasted values is also
responder's short suit. Rather opener needs to have
club shortness for this bid or a double fit.
Of course for some really good double fits, he
can simply bid 4 - conventional.

Accept Game invitation in Clubs
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good club fit - this should be gf in
but again passed hand bidding could change
the meaning of this bid as 5 is also available.
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-4
If partner void or singleton he can still show it.
->bypass 3N

unusual club fit - sign-off in clubs?
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-5
->bypass 3N/4H and any slam exploration


Accept Game invitation in NoTrump
———————————


(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3N

Waiting bids:
————–
We have 2 bids

What bid shows some sort of (poor heart fit/poor hand)
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3
willing to be passed out in 3 or raised to 4
These should show :3


generic waiting bid
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3


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[I really don't see the value of showing a diamond suit
here :5 no stoppers and no and fit. Something
like xxx QJ AKxxx KQx looking for 3N
I definitely would want to know if partner has :5+
though I would prefer him ruffing with his hand]
This hand is no unlikely using 3 as a catch-all is better,
and consistent the unpassed hand approach.

The unpassed hand 3 would have been a cue-bid.
******************************************************

So from an invitational hand perspective
we have only one catch-all bid:

(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3
While 3 sounds like it shows it should be a waiting
bit. Just as 3 sounds like it shows - It should
set trumps and force game opposite an invitational hand.
May 27, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 27, 2019
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OK I got that wrong:

(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3 is not Goldman.
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-2N-(p)-3 is Goldman.

Does the same principle apply?
May 27, 2019
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Regarding the (p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3 treatment:
Is this the classic or modern school treatment?
(I need to update my system notes :) and not sure which set to update.)

So, if partner was not a passed hand, he is not supposed to bid
3 with something like xx Axxxx xx KQxx? The correct bid would have been 2N?

Also, if 3 is passable then I assume 3 (Goldman?), 3N, 4 are the primary game going bids?
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3 sets as trump
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-4 sets as trump

Would 3 by responder over 3 have been game forcing - I don't think so since responder has 3 (must be artificial game force)
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-3-(p)-3-(p)-?

3 invitational with good hearts eg: xx AKxxx xx Qxxx
3 game-forcing with good hearts eg: xx AKxxx xx Kxxx

I am also assuming the sequence
(p)-p-(p)-1N-(p)-2-(p)-2-(p)-4 is an auto-splinter.

Please feel free to chime in?
May 27, 2019
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May 26, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 26, 2019
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I think most people had one or more of the following reasons for taking the course:
1) It was a Meatgrinder university - if you didn't want to take this course you could choose a major instead.
2) Mandatory course for particular program type (specialist vs major)
3) Arrogance (The students had a more accurate name for our course - “Defective and deficient Computing”). The entire course was about mathematically mapping programs into code for Turing machines in order to prove whether they were np or np complete. The course “separated the boys from the men.”
4) A desire to contribute to the state of current scientific endeavors but understanding our frontiers.

I guess this is going to Segway into my bridge dream - so I will start another discussion below.
May 25, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 25, 2019
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Barry, I've done that too - maybe not with bridge problems though. Only in the morning I tend to discover the reasoning
is completely over my head, and my notes aren't detailed enough
to even begin understanding.

“Hogamus Higamus …”
May 24, 2019
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Damn! Amy that was you? Now am I really going to have nightmares playing in the same tournament.

My friend used a really classic maneuver with the professor who was having some trouble recognizing him. Naturally, he started tactfully by complimenting him on the last lecture of class.
After all, what else are smarts good for? “I am missing a few lecture notes, and I was wondering if I could photocopy yours?”
He started. “Which ones?” the Professor queried, still trying to place him.

“All of them!” he replied as the astonished professor handed him
the course notes to a course known for its 80% failure rate.

The morale I learnt from him was how important it was to attend the lecture before the next exam. Now, John you and everyone here
know the secret to avoiding those classic anxiety dreams - ask for lecture notes!
May 24, 2019
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Yeah we don't read all that well when dreaming :)
May 23, 2019
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I would recommend recording some vugraph voice commentaries and playing them back while you sleep. Might as well be productive when you dream!!!


Or even take some complicated bidding material like
Kryzstof Martens books put them through some sort of
audible reader and play them while sleeping.


Your dreaming is telling you your brain doesn't want you to
waste your valuable time
May 22, 2019
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How about dreaming of finding an amazing way to play a suit combination only to realize when you wake up - it was just a dream. Nah! Sounds too hokey.
May 22, 2019
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I kinda like 3 Keeps the options open. No sense committing to game in 5. If partner has AQx I find the Moysian fit.
May 22, 2019
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The medal now will always belong to both you and Zia
May 21, 2019
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In the end, we all have to return back to our creator.
It's these deeds that count more than anything else.
Not only in regards to elucidating our purpose as role
models, but also the nobility of human nature as it
vanquishes base qualities of instinct.

Congrats Mariusz and Zia


Please do not shy away posting to this thread. It is
very important to never forget who we are and reward
role models with recognition so that we can be just to
ourselves.


Mariusz and Zia deserve this recognition, and we all deserve
recognition for realizing the importance of highlighting
such sacrifices - in essence to be true to ourselves.

Please continue to post!
May 21, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 21, 2019
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Its a joke - referring to a double pinochle deck where you have 2 of very honor A-10. So the deck has 8 aces. When a trump suit is selected the Jacks of the same color are called bowers, they are treated as belonging to the trump suit and ranking higher than the Ace of Trumps.

It's not a good joke - but a joke nevertheless.
May 10, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 10, 2019
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I would downgrade missing most of the bowers.
May 10, 2019
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Yeah I think this statement is misleading:

“Because of this answer, North concludes that A, and a ruff is not enough to kill the contract.”


North simply didn't think the lead was from a doubleton.
Having dismissed that, He/She tried to play for a reasonable
set that didn't involve a ruff.

I think what he might have wanted to know was whether on a good 5c suit and 15-16 hcp balanced East would always open 1N. With an unbalanced 6c suit and the A (15-16 points) he would have
bid 3. Hence East is more likely missing the A, make a
switch reasonable.
May 3, 2019
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But we notice your name appears in blue letters :)
May 3, 2019
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That is very interesting. I guess if you don't play GB2NT here
you could bid 3 on

xxx Kxxx x Qxxxx

and pass on

xx Kxxx xx Qxxxx

depending on your treatment. I am just theorizing here.

I am not convinced that the GB2N is really helping here, other than right siding the contract. Even that is debatable.

I am still not sure what you would bid if you were playing
GB2NT on the following hand unless you double intending to bid 2N
especially if partner bids 2

Txx QJTx Axx KJT


The advantage of passing allows South to bid again as well as
showing extras. Knowing that they too should have a fit keeps the
bidding lower. The GB2NT bid takes away some of those options.

I guess that I am saying is that because the support double
already provides a temporizing bid, it is ABSOLUTELY forcing to the 2-level of the supported suit. This treatment eliminates
the need for a GB2NT.

The advantage of the GB2NT is clear in other situations,
I am not sure it is correct in the case of support doubles
and redoubles.
May 3, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 3, 2019
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So 1-(p)-2-(p)-2 promises 6s not 7s, so 2s + ruff
A and a club return still seems like down 1 to me. Or am I missing something? Did North expect that missing the A Declarer needs 7s to open? Why would partner lead a doubleton yet have no trumps when he could have led A instead?

What am I missing?
May 3, 2019
Imtiaz Husain edited this comment May 3, 2019
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Craig,

I provide the following slight differences:
a) (otherwise, compete/invite or bid game in s)
b) primary concern should be the suit bid and raised.
2N should show stoppers in that suit.
c) 10-12 hcp as the range for a 2N bid.

Also I think what you are saying your 2N followed by passing
the relay to 3 would have shown something like:

i) Qxx QJTx x QJxxx

while 3 would show
ii) Tx QJTx Axx KJTx

I prefer having it the other way around and using 2N to bid
hand ii). I don't mind passing hand i) as I think it is probably forcing to 2 anyway. I might get to bid 3 later on. Also I really wouldn't want to bid 2 on

iii) Txx QJTx Axx KJT


I have enjoyed your insightful thoughts, even though somehow
I feel GB2NT should not be used in raising a partners suit at
the cost of losing the 2N bid. I think if you want to keep
the GB2NT in this sequence you might have to switch around
the meanings of x and 2 to allow x followed by 2N to retain
the meaning of the previous 2N bid.
May 2, 2019
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