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I tried to catch a baby rattlesnake with my bare hands.

Then after it bit me I tried to catch it again using a dishtowel as protection. So it bit me through the dishtowel.
Oct. 23, 2015
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Excellent first step.
Oct. 22, 2015
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And with this post you convinced me, JoAnna.

FREE Dean Pokorny!
Oct. 20, 2015
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I think making flaggers public would make matters far worse, for some of the reasons cited by Gary.

Another idea: It would be nice if there was a way of knowing if a post had been flagged, and there was an unflag button, so people could vote to keep a post, irrespective of whether or not they agreed with its content.

Or instead of a bidding poll pop-up, you could have a random flagged post (preferably sans author) pop up and you could vote whether or not it violates community guidelines.
Oct. 20, 2015
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Shame on that troublemaker Steve Weinstein for calling it a deal!

http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/life-ban-deserved/?cj=256430#c256430
Oct. 20, 2015
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“Anything else? :) ”

Well, since you asked:

How many posts of yours have been removed?

Have you been suspended from posting?
Oct. 20, 2015
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I think Peg & Timo's thinking is flawed. Which analogy you use is going to affect your perception of things. For instance, when the US used to justify its meddling in Cuba by saying ‘it’s in our backyard' when that's a flawed analogy because presumably you OWN your backyard.

Bridge Winners IS a private site, but it's also supposed to be an inclusive online home for bridge players from all over the world. The owners of this site should feel SOME responsibility for setting rules that aren't arbitrary or capricious or irrational. There should be a great deal of respect for diversity of viewpoints and opinions and cultural style.

To me the (original) deal was ‘Hey we’re starting a new site and we want everyone to use it. Please come. We just don't want you to be a complete jackass but otherwise feel free to express yourself. If you can't handle heated arguments, though, perhaps you shouldn't start them. (Okay, I added that last bit.)' And folks accepted that deal. Now that everybody's onboard, the deal is (perhaps?) slowly shifting to ‘It’s OUR PRIVATE SITE, FOLLOW THE RULES! RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH! If you have 2 comments removed in 3 years, you're on my ‘shitlist’! (or ‘repeat offender’ if you want the public wording from OP) and you're on double-secret probation!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0cF2piwjYQ
Oct. 20, 2015
Jonathan Ferguson edited this comment Oct. 20, 2015
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Timo, for someone who is rude as often as you are (for instance:)

“Nope, you are wrong as usual. Seems like you can not even understand the difference between two things even though it has been explained over and over again.

Let me try to explain 1 more last time to those who are slow to understand.”

I'd think you'd fall a little more on the ‘less moderation is more’ side of the argument.

To me the most aggravating folks are those whose own posting is (borderline) offensive and yet who run around flagging everybody else's posts.
Oct. 20, 2015
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Neil, I think your comment matters, fwiw.
Oct. 20, 2015
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That racist joke receiving that many likes is a good example of why trusting this community to moderate itself is perhaps not ideal.
Oct. 20, 2015
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P-S thought enough of Boye and/or Steve's influence (w/ or w/o ‘badges’) to confess based on the deal they negotiated. That much is pretty clear.

Perhaps the agreement explicitly addressed the possibility that in spite of Boye and/or Steve's best efforts a harsher punishment (and the harsh glare of the public spotlight) might be forthcoming from the ‘authorities.’ But if it didn't, it's just all kinds of wrong. (Instead of just a really bad idea, which is what it is if it did explicitly address that possibility.)
Oct. 19, 2015
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If you have knowledge that someone robbed a bank, and you offer them a plea deal, and they ask to see your badge and you say ‘Badges? We ain’t got no badges. …'' And they accept the deal you offer. And then the proper authorities publicize and punish them harshly for their crime. You look like a richard. So don't do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
Oct. 19, 2015
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I think the dealmakers DO think they have more authority than that (not legally, but using their social influence) and that's one aspect of this whole process that troubles me.

I don't approve of Boye and his posse offering deals to cheaters AT ALL, but ESPECIALLY if they've ALREADY BROKEN THE CODE! In that one respect, I agree with the infamous WBF response letter.
Oct. 19, 2015
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“@BWAdmins it would be nice to have a way of pointing someone to a post.”

You mean like this?

http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/life-ban-deserved/?cj=258304#c258304
Oct. 19, 2015
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A simpler alternative would be to simply have (everybody's) posts auto-delete after receiving a certain number of flags. Then people could opt to either: 1) not see auto-deleted posts 2) have the option to see auto-deleted posts or 3) see auto-deleted posts (by default.)

The problem with that more simplistic solution is that until the posts garnered enough flags, they could still offend people. Also, reading a discussion replying to comments you can't see is often fairly annoying.
Oct. 19, 2015
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This sort of situation presents a ‘You first’ dynamic that needs to be dealt with.

I propose that NBO's sign a document saying that once a certain ‘critical mass’ of OTHER NBO's also sign the document, ALL signatories withdraw from the world championship.

I would certainly support the CBF pulling out of the next World Championship if enough other teams did as well.

(The National Popular Vote plan has a similar mechanism. http://www.fairvote.org/reforms/national-popular-vote/what-is-the-national-popular-vote-plan/ )
Oct. 19, 2015
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As someone who has made a career of staying just on the right side of ‘the line’ on Internet forums, I agree that Dean invariably (and repeatedly) found himself just on the other side.

My philosophy is that if you're posting under your real name, you should get a lot of leeway in what you're allowed to say. But I also get that people like Dean destroy the tone that BW wants to present & create a lot of work for the mods.

If I were king of the world I'd solve the problem thusly:

Dean wouldn't be allowed to reply to discussions. He would be blocked by default to all new users. His comments wouldn't say ‘you are ignoring …’ they simply wouldn't appear at all. Nor would responses to his comments. Nor would his threads.

Then people who want to read his opinions could ‘opt in’ by unblocking him, but his comments wouldn't be flaggable.

No work (well, except for initial programming) for BW staff. Those who think his insights outweigh his style would be able to hear what he has to say. And those who don't wouldn't even be aware of his existence here.
Oct. 19, 2015
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And then when we catch cheaters by investigating Butler discrepancies, we can exclaim ‘The Butler did it!’
Oct. 14, 2015
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“… we haven't decided to change our form of government to an oligarchy, did we?”

Actually, yes. Yes we did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
Oct. 12, 2015
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I agree with all of this, but where is the section on tasering, walling & waterboarding?
Oct. 10, 2015
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