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I'd guess about 17 HCP is the normal reasonable minimum for a 2c opener, but I'm not sure. I am pretty sure you couldn't be breaking any rules by judging to open 2 clubs on this type of hand, with many tricks and 13 points.

I don't like 1c then 5c for the reason you say at the end - too many hands where 3nt has chances to make a bunch to not at least try to get there by faking a reverse or jump shift

(Over 1s response I think I'd just take a shot at 3nt if nobody overcalled…)
July 10, 2014
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I think a simpler way to answer the question is that you just need a certain amount of HCP to open 2c, and 13 isn't enough - See what I said from lines 7-12 in my first answer.

Still, there is no real way to bid this hand in standard by opening 1c (you have to lie some way, by either faking a reverse, jump shift, or 3nt rebid), but I definitely wouldn't worry about the hand getting passed out because of my shape and lack of HCP.

This principle can also apply to why I sometimes make a simple over-call with practically game in my hand instead of doubling - if I have this type of hand.
July 10, 2014
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Good analysis of the play.

To me, opening 2c seems very far out there. You do have an 8.5 trick hand, but you just don't have the values to GF by means of opening 2c. You definitely shouldn't be thinking about slam when game is still pretty uncertain. Also, for slam to be good, partner basically needs to have 3 tricks outside clubs, and have a doubleton club (or a stiff jack), which is very unlikely.

Also, a common danger of opening 2c without anywhere near 22 HCP is that partner will bid too much with some random 10-11 count, in this case with scattered red suit values. This is mitigated somewhat here by the fact that partner is a passed hand.

I admit there may be some difficulty bidding over partner's response (I'd personally opt to fake a reverse maybe, but it's also reasonable to just bid 3nt, especially over a 1s response.)

To me, it just feels so wrong to open 2c. Also, even opening 2c, you're not really accurately describing your hand anyway. I admit upon consideration, it maybe could make the auction easier, but even so I still would never bid it.

Well done, but of course, the slam is quite lucky, and to me, your partner had an opening bid.
July 9, 2014
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leading a heart has going for it both that declarer had a 3h bid available but not a 3c bid, and I have stronger hearts. A slight point on the negative end is that partner would be slightly more likely to slip in a 2h bid than a 2c bid, but with all your strength it doesnt seem to matter.

As for which heart to lead, the queen just feels right to me - when it might be necessary to switch suits (to either black suit here), it's usually better to lead an honor if reasonable.
July 3, 2014
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ruff and lead AK spades and a spade if all follow low. If N follows now i'm sort of home, since they probably wont have 4 hearts as well, i can adopt total crossruff lines. If N shows out they're almost certainly 2-4-6-1, and I need to hope they have stiff 10c to have a chance, then i can still crossruff.

Meanwhile, if north drops the QS doubleton (likely), i can instead cash two clubs ending in hand, ruff a diamond cash the JS (presumably N doesnt have 3 clubs) ruff a spade and squeeze North in the endgame.

July 3, 2014
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2d is not forcing, look again
July 1, 2014
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I make one try but i'm not happy about it - if partner doesnt have 5 trump it's hard to construct a good slam
June 29, 2014
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June 29, 2014
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All 3 actions are a bit out of line, since 4h shouldn't really have so much defense for spades for the reason above (phantom sac), 5h isn't clear but isn't unreasonable, and redouble seems pretty far out there, so the majority of the blame goes to North I'd say.
June 27, 2014
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Sorry never mind
June 24, 2014
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I think no, although I don't think the answer given is right since there is no standard I believe, While it may be reasonable to play nonserious here, I certainly don't think I'd assume it if it came up as a logical extension.
June 19, 2014
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6h could have very little play opposite some reasonable preempts. I agree that cuebidding might help the opponents, but it's still my preferred choice to try to reach the best contract (especially since i'm wary of those white/red preempts, I want to give partner a chance to bid 5h over 4s, which I will pass. Otherwise I will bid slam). I think bidding 6h isn't bad either. I wouldn't try 5h, and I don't see much point in keycarding since you won't gain useful info from it.
June 16, 2014
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no but there is one 4 bid that's probably a misclick.
June 16, 2014
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well if lefty puts in the 9 or 10 when u lead low it's necessary to put in the J to pick up Q9/Q10 doubleton on the left. If lefty plays small I don't see how it can matter whether you play the K or the J, but I'm probably missing something…
June 11, 2014
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Yes, there are many different hands, although on the example hand you gave there don't I also make?
June 9, 2014
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lets say South has A10x, Jxx, Qxxx, xxx or something. Isn't it important to lead a club to the ace not jack, to knock out their spade entry before a second trump gets played? If S has a club honor this line might fail, but not if they have 4 clubs most likely.

I might well be missing something, or even a way to combine more chances. It seems like a pretty hard hand.
June 9, 2014
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i didn't really even give a line, but if you're referring to crossing to the ace of clubs hoping they'll split, i dont see how point 2 is valid since they can always play a second trump themselves if trumps are 3-2. Point one is true though, and I don't think it's possible to gain the chance of KQx offside also without help.

June 9, 2014
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Yes, it has to be right to lead spades from dummy, and i'm not sure if flying A of trumps won't hurt later (as opposed to crossing in clubs first and winning first trump in hand). If possible, declarer should try to combine his original chances with that of KQx of clubs or kQ of clubs onside, which is why I'm tempted to win and lead a club right away since most will split (I'd go up with the ace if they don't and lead a spade). Not sure what's right.
June 9, 2014
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Fairly clearcut i think to bid 2s because it's where i live and is where most likely game is as Eric said.
June 8, 2014
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I feel like problems like this make people look extra hard for reasons not to bid stayman. so they might not be as accurate estimates of what we'd do at the table.
May 29, 2014
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