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Actually I don't think all of this matters at least as far as the ACBL goes…. I believe it was pointed out by Ellis Faigenbaum that the CDR of the ACBL actually addresses this. (don't hold me to it though)

Apparently, for these three cheating cases, the CDR states that specifically that no others will move up because things were not addressed during the correction period.

If that's the case, then the titles will remain vacant. It was suggested that the CDR be changed. That seems fine, but as I said in another post, to do so retroactively would be more than absurd - might as well throw out the rulebook altogether.
Sept. 21, 2015
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Ha - I'm sure Michael…I think we've all said everything by now. :)
Sept. 20, 2015
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Don't see how you could change the CDR retroactively. I don't know much about organizational law, but sounds like you might as well throw all the laws out if you do this.
Sept. 20, 2015
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As I've said in another thread, to me it's impossible to roll any team (or pair) up any places. For the KOs it would really be unfair - a team might have lost to the cheating team in any earlier match…that team might have won the event otherwise. Why roll somebody up just because they were lucky enough not to play them till the final?

The only solution in my mind is vacating and leaving the rest alone. If there's no winner, there's no winner.
Sept. 20, 2015
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Now if Marty Kamil starts writing here, even I'll be confused!
Sept. 20, 2015
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Roy - that's Michael Fleisher above, not Marty…sorry! :)
Sept. 20, 2015
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There are those who would say you've just proven why living in Norway is better Yuval! :)
Sept. 20, 2015
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I have to throw my two cents in here. Sorry if it's slightly tilted away from stats. My simple view is that if you brought a bunch of hands to a world class panel for review, they could never get guilt or innocence wrong.

I admit to playing minor detective myself in the case of P-S (prior to yesterday's announcement). I went back randomly to 2008. In looking over hands, the fourth hand I came across was: A98xxx Q KQ9 Qxx. Both vul at imps, 1H by LHO, pass, 2H by RHO, to you. Now I believe there is NO expert (let alone world class) who would not bid 2S with this. This hand passed! Well, suffice it to say, partner had x JT98 xxxx A98x.

Now I'm not for a minute suggesting that I wouldn't need lots of hands like this to “prove” anything, but…I don't need a statistic to tell me that something really strange is going on here.

I do believe Boye has made this point several times over.

Incidentally, I'm not addressing exactly what is needed to convict someone of cheating and have it “stand up in court”. I guess that's outside of my pay grade and probably why one would need statistics or video. My point is simply that in the real world, cutting out all of the BS, the proof IS in the pudding.
Sept. 20, 2015
Michael Kamil edited this comment Sept. 20, 2015
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Ha Boye, If I have to hear this sentiment one more time… Just joking - I simply meant I live with Gabby! Maybe that's why she was so enamored with Norway went she went there for the European Championship. Not all of us are American Arrogant. :)

Sept. 20, 2015
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“So you go on and stamp your forms Sonny…cause to tell you the truth, I don't give a…” :)
Sept. 19, 2015
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I don't see how you can really ever go back and move teams up. Here's why: In a KO, say I played and lost to Fantunes in the round of 8 (just choosing at random). Who's to say my team wouldn't have beaten them if clean and gone on to win the event. Even in a Swiss event or BAM, everything would have gone differently if they weren't in there cheating. I'd go for simply vacating all the titles and moving nothing around.
Sept. 19, 2015
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When does the next plane leave Boye?
Sept. 19, 2015
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I don't even know what was said…I don't get the emails. I guess it's just a question of what people think is “offensive”. I live with a woman tons smarter than I who says NO WORDS could offend her. I've come to her way of thinking.
Sept. 19, 2015
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Artur, That's because the flagging system has flaws. It can actually act as a sort of “popularity contest”. C'est la vie.
Sept. 19, 2015
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I didn't read it that way. They “voluntarily agreed” with each other. It doesn't say that their offer was accepted anywhere.
Sept. 19, 2015
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Sept. 19, 2015
Michael Kamil edited this comment Sept. 19, 2015
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David said it pretty darn well.
Sept. 19, 2015
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Well said Sabine. Sorry you can't play in the BB this time around - hopefully next.
Sept. 19, 2015
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Beautifully said Roy. It's obviously an emotional time for all and it's nice to see that the bridge world has so much humanity when all is said and done. You, Boye and many others are simply trying to do the right thing….passions lead to intense feelings and it's not surprising to have such battles. I too am sorry you and Sabine won't be playing in the BB…hopefully next time.
Sept. 19, 2015
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I too applaud them for coming forward. I have always liked both Alex and Josef on a personal level. Whatever the penalty imposed, good luck in the future and I hope to meet up with you down the road.
Sept. 19, 2015
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