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In response to Sathya's comment upthread, There is one player (Morrie Kleinplatz) in particular who is definitely a national champion (i think silver ribbon or other equivalent Sr event), who, since winning his title, has won the (then) 0-5k minispingold and the 0-10k knockout.
Since her title(s)Sylvia Shi has won the flight A of Grand National teams(0-6K), and continues to play (albeit with clients) in the 0=10k events. I played against her in the 0-10k mixed swiss
in Atlanta last summer.
Personally, I don't mind, because if I do well with them in the event, it made it a stronger field. The general idea of the rule is a good one,imo, with some of the exceptions noted above.
March 24
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To my knowledge, that was Sion's first transgression….he was not a convicted cheater at the time he got caught with Cokin.
You also say that he used the courts to extract a settlement. The case was being heard by a jury iirc, so a Judge not familiar with the game would have nothing to do with the case being settled. As happens with regularity with cases, both sides recognized they had something to lose, and everyone knew they had a downside.
Is it the same as FN? You could say yes….once a cheat, always a cheat, and that any form of cheating deserves the death penalty. Or, you could say not really, because it seems that the FN scandal was much wider in scope and certainly over a longer period of time. And the proof was actually there to support a conviction.
This was not necessarily so with Cokin/Sion. LATE 70'S were pre-video era. And at least Cokin owned up to some wrongdoing, and he actually was expellled but was granted reinstatement. accepted punishment, and was remorseful as well. Did he deserve a lifetime ban? I'm sure you could make the case, but again that was a different era with very different politics at work.
As i'm sure you can tell, I considered Allan a good friend and amazing mentor. He gave so much back`to the game…FN has done nothing but say FU to the bridge world. I would not enter any event that they were playing in.
If you didnt know Alan,, maybe you should read the ACBL obit at
https://www.acbl.org/allan-cokin-1942-2014/
July 4, 2018
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No, Bob, I do not believe that is correct. Sion was convicted twice and banned. Cokin's tryst with Sion, in early 80's iirc, was the only blemish on his record. After the ACBL ruling about discipline, they sued the ACBL in Federal court and the case actually proceeded to trial (I attended a couple of days of the trial). Before the trial was concluded, the parties reached a settlement that included a period of suspension and directive that he never play with Sion again.
Cokin did his time, and thereafter did the best he could to make up for his indiscretions, becoming a top notch bidding theorist, coach, and mentor. He did his time and paid the price, but did not reofend.
July 4, 2018
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I was only pointing out that your statement “to say there is ”no incentive“ means that they have no desire to improve or play the best in the game.”, was neither true in fact or theory.
I have openly said that learning to play bridge in South Florida since the early 70's was a major advantage. I don't know if i'd call it “spoiled”….it just means that if I dont feel like going to GNT district finals i can drive down the street and face some top competition. And i definitely am most appreciative of that !!
May 7, 2018
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Florida does definitely require local club qualification…just ask Richie Coren's team, who defeated Meckwell in the Open GNT final, only to be disqualified because a team member had not done so.
May 7, 2018
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10k is totally logical considering the plethora of national 10 k events.
I dont know where you saw 252 D9 players with more than 6k, that number seems awfully low. I believe we have @15-20 regulars alone at the Ft Lauderdale BC that are over 6k
May 7, 2018
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Mark, I'm a Florida player who just went over 6k. I've represented District 9 at nationals 5 out of the last 6 years in Flight A. My team was defeated at Disrict finals this year, so it wont be 6 out of 7, and this was my last shot. In the 7 years of qualifying, our flight has never had more than 5 teams, which was a couple of times, but usually only 3 or 4.
To my knowledge, in those last 7 years of qualifying, the open flight once had 4 teams, a couple times 3 teams, and the rest 2 teams. This year was 2 teams, and the winner (not Meckwell) was disqualified because one of the players did not qualify at the local level. Those statistics demonstrate the fallacy of your argument.
We have plenty of opportunity to play against the best in the game. Look at the pro teams at our many regionals, of which we have about one a month. Meckwell is always there, and usually at least 5 other teams all of whom would be top 20 seeds in the Spin/Vandy.And that doesnt even include the boatload of world and national champions that reside in South Florida, who also attend virtually all of our regionals.
This year, the district finals were held in South Florida, where the aforementioned boatload of champs reside….2 teams.
I think your assertion that those players over 6k have no desire to improve by playing the best is neither well thought out nor at all researched. Those same players that you are referring to (over 6k, dont want to compete in district 9 GNT finals) can all be seen at every one of our regionals playing in bracket 1 KO's against the top teams the ACBL has to offer.
So next year, if I dont feel like driving at least 3 hours to play a KO match against Meckwell, but still feel like improving, I'll just go to my local club and play against Janice Seamon-Molson, Neil Silverman, Mike Cappelletti, Shannon Cappelleti, Richie Scwartz, Bernace DeYoung….and some other recent national champs (Mark Yeager, Lee Atkinson, Ellen Kozlove…and I could go on but i'm sure you get the point.)
Kudos to Mike C for his post ,ideas, and concerns.
May 7, 2018
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on the actual hand are you going to force to game if opener only bids 3d over 3c?
March 27, 2018
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you're right, we cant show a 2 suiter. I don't think you can with regular lebensohl either.
3c followed by 3 hts, shows spade stop.
If you know of any improvemeent, i'm certainly open to it.
March 26, 2018
Mike Wolf edited this comment March 26, 2018
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if you open 1c, what would you're rebid be over a major suit response?
Dec. 18, 2017
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I'm even embarrassed to tell the story:
September, 1970, student union at the Univ of Arizona (Marshall Lewis, you might remember this), annual student bridge tourney.
I had just learned how to play bridge a month before, and grabbed a frat brother who said he knew how to play, and dragged him to the SU. First time duplicate for either of us. The director explained the mechanics, and we sat down…second hand out of the box we bid and make 6 hearts. I thought this was so impressive that i got up and shouted to the room “we made a slam!”.
June 11, 2017
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the championship flight plays whenever and whereever they want
May 4, 2017
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there were 1 team from North of Orlando, 1 team that had 2 players from Orlando area and 2 from Miami, 1 team from Naples, and 1 from Palm Beach area that had 1 player from Miami, and our team, all from SE Florida. As i've said upthread, ST Pete isnt the center of anything.
May 3, 2017
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Ray, Orlando would be the most logical,easiest to get to from anywhere in the state. Geographically, it would also be right in the middle,and cater to Jacksonville and South Florida, and anywhere in between. Also, unlike St Pete, you can actually fly there if you want without an additional 45 minute ride to the playing site from the airport.
Another idea, since we are so large geographically, is to do what i've seen other districts do, and thats do it on line. I believe that would increase attendance more than anything.
May 1, 2017
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Hi John, sorry you couldnt make it this year, but you can be added for the national finsls, since your team won.(as long you qualified locally)
Regarding location, my point was that to have it in a place that is no closer than a 2 hour drive for everyone participating is silly to me. I cant believe that if it were in Orlando there wouldnt be more teams. The attendance in the future will be impacted at least a tiny amount, because i personally am not going to continue to support the event as presently constituted. Drive 3 1/2 hours to play 24 boards is not my idea of a productive day. (admittedly our own fault for being so hopeless) but the same would apply to anyone i think. The scoring snafu is just another example of how low things have gotten for this event. Good luck to your team in Toronto.
ps. i dont believe there were any 5 or 6 man teams yesterday.
April 30, 2017
Mike Wolf edited this comment April 30, 2017
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yes it is….but the championship flight is played in a different venue on a different date….arranged usually by the sponsors of the teams that play…usually only 3 or so teams. I understand they pay the directors themselves to run the event when and where they choose. ( i dont have direct knowledge but its what ive been told)
April 30, 2017
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I copied Jay Whipple with the article when i posted it. Hes usually very responsive so am interested in what he has to say.
April 30, 2017
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hi Steve, thanks for chiming in on this. In the last 7 years i cant recall even 1 team from Pensacola or Key West participating in this flight of the event. This year, there was 1 team from horth of orlando, a couple players from the Orlando area, and everyone else was frm SE or SW Fla. This has been the norm each and every year. St Pete is not a central location at all for this event
April 30, 2017
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St Pete, Fla is not the center of anything
April 30, 2017
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we had 4 six board matches. total bridge time 3 hours. total driving time 7 hours
April 30, 2017
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