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(For my great surprise) I strongly disagree with the consequence.

IMHO the question whether the 7H is automatic at your level is almost irrelevant. Maybe one level lower it is not automatic because having some silly fears. Maybe three level lower it is automatic again because of not even seeing the risks. And so on.

The question is what the player in the hot seat had in mind. And the player answered our question when he did not bid 7 over the 5.

If we take into consideration his earlier decision then we can see that the 2 minutes coming over the 5 helps a lot to reevaluate the hand. Partner says: think it over! And you do. I beleive that this has nothing to do about your (K.W.) evaluation with the hand. The only relevant question is the player's evaluation and the change in mind.

I might seem severe. But I see this argument very often and I never understand why the top players think that what is clear for them is clear for everybody. It is not so at all.

Not that the player in question would not be a good player. He is good and experienced. But at that board he did not see the Grand at once only with the second chance. And I think his second chance could have been legitimate only if there would have been no further help…
Feb. 18
Péter Talyigás edited this comment Feb. 18
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Melanie,
I play a lot of board games with my kids and I am fond of the F2F activities.
Our software is designed to play face to face, at the venue. :)
Peter
Jan. 9
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Dear Michael,

I also do not think that it worth to argue with your feeling and experience. I still have the confidence to state that the software we created is better than you can imagine :) :)

I also would like to underline that with our solution you are not isolated like a player of an online website: you sit at the table and see your opponent as you do it with the cards (and move the same way round after round and so on) …

Still: I admire the renaissance-man in you.

One of my greatest bridge memory is connected to a concert. At the entrance of the concert hall a friend of mine cried my name and rushed to me, asking for paper and pencil. Scratched a hand and stated: “I was told that I could have made this four hearts, but I couldn’t find a way. Help because I go crazy”. The concert started in a minute. When we met again after the performance, I asked him: “Your sketch have only x-s, no small cards. Did you have the deuce of hearts in hand?” “He said: how should I know?” “Who said that you could have made it?” He named the player. “Okay. I know him very well. The clue to the hand is that you had the deuce of hearts and you should use it wisely. Now you can solve it.” Not only I did not touch a card, this board became a symbol for me without playing it.

Finally I show you, how a not-so-young-fellow can adapt the new technology. My partner will turn 70 this year and he plays top level bridge since his teenage years. We played together in a final, where tablets were involved. I have never seen anything like this before (just sit in my place and listen how I will be NOT endplayed):

https://vugraph.lovebridge.com/screen/visoft_216924_1_1?screen=replay&ns=134888&board=9&buttons=off

This early crocodile-coup saved my trump trick (even when it happens not easy to see how and why it is the right play). It’s just too bad that the coup went only for the second undertrick. But this is real bridge at its best.

(Tbh: this is so nice that I have already shown this board here in the Bridgewinners, but most probably you have missed it as I foolishly put it at the very end of a long article, what a waste of beauty :) )

All the bests,
Peter
Jan. 4
Péter Talyigás edited this comment Jan. 4
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Dear Mr. Velecky,

Thank you very much for giving it a try and first of all I congratulate to your 3rd place.

I fully accept your feelings and I appreciate your opinion.

I must admit that I find your partner's play real bridge here:

https://vugraph.lovebridge.com/screen/visoft_9694_1_1?screen=replay&ns=10518&board=10

You might show it to your students, since it contains almost everything: guts, card reading and good technique.

Having said that, you can also show them those tables where the declarer went astray (two other Souths had the opportunity to reach a similar ending but failed) and also the good and bad bidding decisions from other tables (for example: somewhere South chose to raise with Kx and it wasn't bad, somewhere else East bid on alone - also was a good decision (or just lucky?)…). What a heaven for an analyitic mind to climb down deep into a single board…

(edit: language, as always. Surely need more… always need more)
Jan. 4
Péter Talyigás edited this comment Jan. 4
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Well,
It has many advantages. Preventing cheating is just one issue. For me by far not the most important.

Two more important things coming up quickly:

- Broadcasting: you can broadcast from every table every bid and every card played. It can be later analyzed; not only for the everyday spectator, it is very good for the teachers, and for the students. No need of operator, which makes it more punctual (no mistakes in the broadcast).

- The TD can see every detail about timing by seconds. Who was late? Who played slowly? Was there a break in tempo?

It is debated, but I personally strongly believe that avoiding mistakes, like revokes, bid out of turn, bad boards played, bad seating and so on takes us closer to the essence of the game.
I know that some players consider “the cards” being part of the essence of the game, but in my opinion, this is not the case. We can think about bridge, have conversations about bridge without having cards in our hands. When you think about a puzzle, when you read a book about bridge, you do not need cards into your hand. You hardly can explain a trick shot in snooker without showing it (okay, you might, still it will look good if you can produce the trick) but you can go as deep as you want into the beauty of bridge without touching a card.

One more thing: you might argue that table presence is an issue. If you want to read your partner – that is not a valid point. If you want to read your opponent: well, when we play with tablets, we do it the very same way as with cards. We sit at the same table, I see her gestures, the tempo and everything. So if I can read the opponent (well, maybe not me, someone who is really good in it), I can do it with the tablets also.
My experience is that everybody who tries it gets a much better experience than expected. It is really designed to play bridge at its best :)

So my suggestion is: try it before having a strong opinion :)
Jan. 4
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probably - what i meant is that i am not sure that i would have given enough energy at the table…
Dec. 17, 2018
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Most probably in real life I would lead a diamond, but here I go for the heart ruff… :)
Dec. 17, 2018
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While fully agree, I beleive that tablets have many advantages compared to laptops :)
Nov. 30, 2018
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Phil,
you are right.

In our experiences when we play with the tablets we have (at least) two advantages:

1. The TD has every information available in seconds on his tablet about the consumed time (per given bid, per given trick, per NS as a sum, per EW as a sum)

2. The organizer can set up a time limit when the second (last) board of the round can not be started at the late table. Not surprisingly this second tool is more effective than the first: the players who experienced even once, they felt the urge ever after.

Still, there is slow play. But considerably less.
Nov. 30, 2018
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I think the scorecard issue is just one item on the list, which contains the problems that playing with our system (LoveBridge) and tablets would be solved.

Eric: Every player can reach the up-to-date private score on the tablet – with the frequencies of the boards already played. It is not at all easy to have a wire from there.

Peg: the system automatically records the scores achieved – so the control is not that important anymore. Still, if you want, you can replay all the hands anytime from the website.

Michael (R): barometer is not an ultimate solution but in our experiences, it is waaaay better than the usual Mitchell or Howell movements. Since we organize every tournament in a barometer way, we have already many experiences and I can tell that overseeing might be an issue but overhearing (and the wire) is almost completely eliminated.

David (S): Having played with the tablets at venue already many times I hate the idea of the separate room for each players (directions). What we are up to is bridge – at the venue. Seeing an opponent, having her/his reactions and having the possibility of communicate in an interpersonal way. What might be a good solution (I saw that written here and elsewhere) having North and East at one table and South and West at another one. This can be easily done. (We already tried it once, it worked nicely.)

Wayne (B): When playing with our system, every bid, every card played is recorded from every table. So your wish to have a database where everything can be analyzed can come true easily – yes, fully electronic environment with its many advantages.

Tyler: I think our solution is not that dumb :) . This is designed in every detail to be used at the venue (I have no objections to the pyjamas, though :) ). Even those who hated the idea at the beginning had a much better experience than expected. Those who are not so strongly against electronic environment, they love it. This is because all the features are designed to serve the player and the organizer. I suggest to all who hates it without trying it: give it a chance :)
Nov. 25, 2018
Péter Talyigás edited this comment Nov. 25, 2018
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I do not know :)
I passed and soon I was questioned seriously. (Need not to mention that it was a horrible board for us :) )
Oct. 28, 2018
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Randy,
I prefer North and East sitting together while South and West sit together somewhere else: this way the table feel remains and verbal communication is still possible.
Oct. 9, 2018
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Gonzalo,
The bid goes with cancel periods (the player can set the extent), the play can go with drag and drop, tap or double tap by the players choice.
Oct. 9, 2018
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Jimi, this is exactly the way as it works today.
The extent of the cacellation period can be set at the personal settungs from 0 to 5 seconds.
Oct. 9, 2018
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Oh, it is my limited English again :(
I meant “above”, and now edited, thanks
Sept. 8, 2018
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As mentioned above, we had a good time in Ostende and gave a presentation how bridge would look like staying at the table(!) but playing with tablets. We are fortunate enough to invite you to check yourself in Orlando – you will have the possibility to experience, to try, to give us your opinion. We have a long-long wish list already with features still have to be developed but we believe that our system is already worth to play with, as it is really enjoyable.
We badly need all of your questions above to be discussed in details and your opinion after giving the tablet game a try.
Aug. 21, 2018
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Exactly the same way Gábor Winkler the Hungarian declarer played
June 8, 2018
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Dear Ian,

It took a while but finally I have received the video :)

https://lovebridge.com/media/
May 31, 2018
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What would you find a reasonable agreement?
May 26, 2018
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I have a friend with whom I played it on family holidays - we enjoyed it very much. And yes, bidding at the 8 level is part of the game.
May 15, 2018
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