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In one p'ship, R's immediate 3 sets off some slam-zone stuff, with range and pattern asks; in another, all good R hands go through 2N with 4 RKCB for and 4 for ; in another, 3 sets and 3 sets (either player can declare), and O tells shape at the rebid (I don't particularly like that there is no range ask in the last two).

I like Phil's use of 3N – generally, I think, a Flan responder knows immediately if s/he wants to play 3N – and it could be expanded as a pattern/range ask instead of non-serious (or serious).
Aug. 9, 2014
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Just to clarify: I think the j-s with the balanced hand is, well, archaic, and I like (3), but I have sneaking admiration for some – is it, prominently, Kleinman? – who would make the j-s with the (AKQx-xxx)=xx=AKQx hand types.
Aug. 7, 2014
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Tried to use Bridge World notation: “=” means suits in rank order, ; “-” means in no particular rank order; “(xx-xxx)=y=z” means either major suit can be 2/3 long, = y-long, = z-long.
Aug. 7, 2014
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I agree. Different hand-type, not enough shape or playing power. Got too excited at the opportunity to cross-ref.
July 27, 2014
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I think W should call 4D at the third turn. See http://bridgewinners.com/article/view/bidding-problem-4973/
July 26, 2014
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I was South, holding AKQxx xxx xx Axx. Partner chose to rebid 3 and, based on the normal interpretation of that call, I launched into Minorwood, and we found 6, making 7.

I don't think we would've found the slam if partner had bid 2, intending to then bid 4 (IMHO, the correct choice of calls): 3 by me is then impossibly wimpy, going Minorwood is unfounded, 2 is not forcing. We needed some form of Bourke/3rdSF.

OTOH, re: 2 vs 3: partner was looking at 5 losers. OTOOH, 3 is a HCP hand, 2 then 4 is a distribution/controls hand. With this partner, I would not have taken his 4 second rebid as a Minorwood ask based upon a great suit, but that is the agreement I would prefer.
June 26, 2014
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As usual, much depends upon basic 2/1 p'ship agreements….
June 15, 2014
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Trying to make it a two-parter, so intended to get rebids from the diagram, then 2nd rebids in comments.
June 14, 2014
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After a couple of uncomfortable experiences, I had this discussion with more than a couple of “Laws” folks, who tell me the best way to protect yourself is to put the treatment, usually called “Autowood,” on your card.
June 3, 2014
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I agree that this auction is easier with XYZ, but this partner doesn't play it.
June 1, 2014
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Quite right: “Extended PLOB,” July 1978 TBW, though Swanson gives Moyse's comment as “odious, meaningless, petty little bid.”
May 29, 2014
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“5?: Heart queen and spade queen. If responder would respond with 6?, it would show the heart queen and the club king but would deny the spade queen.”

0 queens = 5?
Q, no Q, no side Ks = 5? 5NT?
Q, no Q, side K = 5? 5NT?

5 = signoff, I assume, so 5N asks for clarification of the 5 calls?

Do you show keys with voids? What Q holdings do the 2/5 key responses show (0,1,2)?

Every form of this I've seen, except possibly the ‘low-Q = K’ version, above, requires either assumptions about what minimal Q holding asker and/or teller will have or clarification asks that get above 5N, making K-asks difficult.
May 29, 2014
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Sure–but I, personally, am here to learn, and would like to enjoy the benefits of free cheese.
May 28, 2014
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Al Moyse.
May 28, 2014
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Do you mean “another suit” than the one agreed as trump? Examples?

Care to describe your response structure?
May 28, 2014
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Clarification: We play three two-suited calls over 1SNT, two show 5+-5+ and one is 5-4-3-1. We want 6-key for these auctions and are waffling on explicit two-suit agreement auctions like 1S-2H/2S-3H and 1D-2C/3C-3D
May 28, 2014
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I see notable players in the “abstain” category. I'd like to know why the abstainers have no opinion: question framed poorly? think 4thSGF is bad (though same problems exist, I think, with 4thSF1)?

Frances: In this partnership, we have to rebid 1S even with weak NT-type hands. Not my choice, but nevertheless….
May 28, 2014
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As implied above, I have no problem with the concept of a best lie…I just wonder why partner, with a stopper, doesn't want to bid it. Seems to create a bevy of possible pitfalls.
May 27, 2014
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Agree that both types of holdings are positional, but maybe for clarity “positional” should refer to the holding that wants the lead coming up to it, not through it.
May 27, 2014
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Does the “anything else” have a natural meaning, or does 2N claim – more hari-kari – a “positional” rather than a true stopper? If 3C is the CA: After the 4thSGF call, what do you call, as opener, with KJxx=xx=AQxx=Axx?

I'm in the camp that would call 2N and expect 3C to show the H short 4x1s and 4-4-5s; this partner, and apparently Benoit, would not.
May 27, 2014
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